AP: Millions of visa overstays overlooked

AP on Yahoo ^ | 6/5/06 | Will Weissert - ap

[NormsRevenge]

MEXICO CITY - Millions of illegal immigrants in the United States never jumped the U.S.-Mexico border where Congress wants to erect impenetrable walls and President Bush is sending National Guard troops to patrol. They never sneaked in at all.

The little-acknowledged reality is that nearly half the estimated 12 million undocumented foreigners in the United States entered on bona fide U.S. visas — and simply never left. Authorities call them "overstays" who have been largely overlooked in the vitriolic debate on immigration.

"The southwestern border gets all the attention, but it's staggering the number of people who come and overstay their visa," said Dean Boyd, a spokesman for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement in Washington. "It's a very large-scale problem."

A study by the Washington-based Pew Hispanic Center last month indicated that 45 percent of the undocumented migrants in the United States overstayed legal visas.

Confirming those findings or knowing the home country of those who overstay their visas is tricky because U.S. authorities don't track the problem. Immigration authorities also generally don't compare entry and exit information to see who should have left the country.

"There's no annual reports published on visa overstays because obviously these people are hiding and don't want to be found," Boyd said.

Ana Luisa certainly doesn't, so she asked that her last name not be used. The Mexico City native lives in Dallas with her husband, 13-year-old son and 5-month-old daughter — who was born in the United States and is an American citizen — and volunteers at a middle school.

When she moved to the United States, she made sure to return to Mexico every six months to renew her tourist visa. But the trip soon became a chore and she let her visa lapse a year ago. Now if she returns to Mexico again she likely won't be able to get another U.S. visa.

"I'm illegal, but I'm someone who is trying to help with my work," she said in a phone interview.

Ana Luisa said she would never have sneaked across the border to get into the United States, and didn't see the harm in overstaying her visa. In Dallas, she said, her son is able to get a better education than he would in Mexico.

"I wouldn't risk my life in the river or in the desert like thousands of others do," she said.

Many borrow the social security numbers of legal residents or use falsified documents to build what appear to be legal identities, making it difficult for employers to know when someone is undocumented. Others work informally, as maids, gardeners or in other jobs where employers rarely require paperwork, despite federal law.

The immigration reforms soon to be hashed out in a Congressional conference committee may crack down on employers who fail to make sure their workers are legal. But it's unclear whether the proposed reforms will send many "overstayers" home.

The U.S. State Department issued nearly 5.4 million temporary, nonimmigrant visas in fiscal year 2005, and about 17 percent went to Mexicans. The most common visas are for tourism, business travel and medical care.

Boyd said he couldn't pinpoint the type of visa that is overstayed the most. Thousands of foreigners who come as students remain in the United States after finishing school or dropping out, and many who come on work visas lose their jobs or stay after their papers expire.

Of course, getting a visa in the first place is a challenge. Lines at the U.S. Embassy in Mexico City form before dawn. Applicants pay $100 for an appointment, bringing proof of employment, savings and family and community roots.

Still, Embassy spokeswoman Judith Bryan said most applicants are approved — about 70 percent.

"The main thing is you have to have sufficient ties to your home country to show you are coming back," she said. "The law — not just for Mexico but everywhere — says that the burden is on the applicant to prove they aren't going to stay. In some cases that's very difficult, especially if you have a lot of family in the U.S. and you don't own property or have money in a bank at home."

Ricardo Ortiz, 55, said visitors who overstay their visas have made it harder for honest people to get visas in the first place. For each of the past 10 years, he has spent nine months working legally at a Long Island racehorse farm.

"Those who are working there and don't have papers are making trouble and holding up our visas," he said, waiting for his Embassy appointment in Mexico City. "We are legal workers, and we are being unfairly hurt."

Nasario Perez, 36, spent three hours on a bus to get to his embassy appointment. He hoped to take a landscaping job in New York state, but said there was no way he would overstay his visa.

"If I do good work and then leave, I will have a chance to get a visa the next time," he said. "That's more important than extra money I could make by staying too long."

[Puppage]

AP: Millions of visa overstays overlooked

Overstays? Isn't that just warm & fuzzy?

I think I'll start calling rapists who have yet to be apprehended...Not Caughts

We'll just feeeeeeel better.

[ncountylee]

her son is able to get a better education than he would in Mexico.

And the schools know about but refuse to report the illegals. Happy to have the taxpayer underwrite the education of these illegal aliens though. The teacher union thugs and school administrators compound the insult by continuing to demand higher taxes.

[Ptaz]

I'd like to see someone asking the question of how to deal with the overstays and why they aren't regularly dealt with.

[Paloma_55]

a) Make it a felony
b) No need for trials and legal delays... not citizens...just cite them and convict them and deport them.
c) No citizenship provided to felons.

[gubamyster]

ping

[Biblebelter]

The more light on immigration, the more this government stinks like a dead fishing rotting from the head down.

[WorkerbeeCitizen]

"The little-acknowledged reality is that nearly half the estimated 12 million undocumented foreigners in the United States entered on bona fide U.S. visas"

It doesn't matter how they got here, they are here illegally NOW.

[Jameison]

"Millions of illegal immigrants in the United States never jumped the U.S.-Mexico border where Congress wants to erect impenetrable walls and President Bush is sending National Guard troops to patrol. They never sneaked in at all.

The little-acknowledged reality is that nearly half the estimated 12 million undocumented foreigners in the United States entered on bona fide U.S. visas — and simply never left. Authorities call them "overstays" who have been largely overlooked in the vitriolic debate on immigration.

The little-acknowledged reality is that nearly half the estimated 12 million undocumented foreigners in the United States entered on bona fide U.S. visas — and simply never left. Authorities call them "overstays" who have been largely overlooked in the vitriolic debate on immigration. "

So secure the Mexican border already, and you promptly stop half the illegals from entering this country.
Not to mention the over 75% of the cocaine here that flows in through the Mexican border.

[wyattearp]

Confirming those findings or knowing the home country of those who overstay their visas is tricky because U.S. authorities don't track the problem.

And the morons in Congress and the White House wonder what we're all so pissed off about!

[Kokojmudd]

Don't worry. Be happy.

[spintreebob]

It's a very large-scale problem

Repeatedly things are labeled a problem. But where is the problem described? Here in IT I work beside illegals. What is the problem.

My daughter (of an illegal mother) needed construction workers. She gave affirmative action to seeking citizens and could not find any. The few citizens she found just sub-contracted the work to illegals (including Russian and Polish as well as Mexican). She found it better to contract directly with the illegals than go through the middelmen. The middlemen were the problem.

With unemployment at 4.6% and work being outsourced to India because there just aren't Americans willing and able to do the work, the anti-illegal activists need to do a much better job of shifting the debate from emotional outbursts to a factual description of exactly what is the problem.

[BJungNan]

It is only a problem for lack of enforcement. No need to go round all of them up. Just put automatic traps in place so eventually they fall into an apprehension system.

A few ways to start solving this...

Put out warrants for their arrest. If they are pulled over for a traffic violation, haul 'em to jail then deport them. No hearing. If the visa stamp in their passport is over the time limit, out they go. If they are doing banking, sieze their assets until they report to INS.
If they come in and they have overstayed their visa, no hearing. Deport them.

[1066AD]

Many borrow the social security numbers of legal residents

"Borrow" ? If it isn't an offense to use someone else's Social Security number it darn well should be, and a serious one at that.

[nckerr]

Just crack down hard on employers and they will deport themselves. We have to fight the reason they are here. The reason is a government who is not enforcing the laws already on the books. And one of those laws are employers hiring illegals. My brother works in the communications business installing wire and their wages are being piushed lower and lower because illegals are being hired at nothing to do the job. All the while my brother has 4 kids to feed.

[tumblindice]

It's all just a part of this rich tapestary that we call life.

[nckerr]

With unemployment at 4.6% and work being outsourced to India because there just aren't Americans willing and able to do the work, the anti-illegal activists need to do a much better job of shifting the debate from emotional outbursts to a factual description of exactly what is the problem.

If the employers paid a better wage they would find the workers. Secondly, they get away with hiring illegals while America foots their education and health costs thru our Emergency Rooms! Thats the problem. Also, what is happening is that employers are boosting their profit margins by taking the money they would have spent on American workers and fattening their own pockets.

I am all about Americans getting rich- but do it legally. Play by the rules everyone else plays by.

[Prokopton]

"With unemployment at 4.6% and work being outsourced to India because there just aren't Americans willing and able to do the work,"

There just aren't Americans willing and able to do the work at the low wages companies pay to third world foreigners and illegal aliens.

[dhs12345]

Gee, I'd like to have my taxes "overlooked."

The honest are getting screwed all the time while the dishonest are not punished.

[dhs12345]

Kind of nice to not have to pay all of the extra government mandated costs that come with a legal worker, too -- FICA, insurance. No vacation pay, too. /sarc

And don't forget that an employer can pay an illegal substandard wages.

All of this makes a legal worker much less desirable and drives down wages.