Hillary Can't Beat 50% Against Allen or Romney

Quinnipiac University ^ | June 5, 2006 | Peter Brown

[IamConservative]

IMO, Warner/Byah is the ticket for the Dems that would be very hard to beat. Our hope is they won't make it past the moonbats that vote in the donk primaries.

[Les_Miserables]

put up a conservative...

Yep, you got it. Now if only the GOP can get it.

[Les_Miserables]

and they have the FBI files.

[Les_Miserables]

Think Slick Willie should get a food taster?

[Moby Grape]

I agree she can't be president, oh but I HOPE she is the dem canidate. It is OBVIOUS now that most liberal media is making every attempt to make sure that she is NOT the nominee because they believe she would lose.

The media will back Gore 1st, then Kerry.

[Les_Miserables]

Don't forget Richardson. He is hispanic and one of the more reasonable Democrats.

[surrey]

I think that if Bubba "kicks the bucket" Hil is toast. I suspect that the majority of their "friends" are His friends and probably despise her. They want to be in Bill's circle and tolerate wifey.

[7thson]

I don't believe it. This is just a setup for her to be the female comeback kid.

[R.W.Ratikal]

It's any body's guess. Will she or won't she? Will Hillary Clinton run for president in 08?

I believe she will. She controls the Democrat treasury. She has unlimited money from foreign governments such as the Chinese communists, and from domestic fat-cats. Large corporations also hedge their bets by financially backing both sides.

And, she has something else that no other candidate of either party can match: name recognition.

Many millions of people vote based solely on names they recognize when they get in the voting booth. Hillary Clinton is a household word better known even than Mickey Mouse, Hitler or Michael Jackson.

She has the vote of 99 percent of blacks, all illegal aliens, most Latinos, government employees, unions and their members, trial lawyers, dupes, leftists of all shades, individual and corporate welfare recipients, socialists, and the tombstone vote and other election frauds that will be brought into play for her benefit.

Al Gore's winning of the popular vote in his race with Bush showed us that the nation has turned far enough to the left to elect a dedicated Marxist.

Hillary Clinton's chance has arrived. There will never be a better time for her to go down in history as the first woman president of a superpower. I believe that an ego far smaller than Hillery's will find it too much to resist.

I believe she will run. Will she win? It will be another squeaker.

[George W. Bush]

Unfortunately, Hillary benefits if Bill dies or is sick.

Actually, I think it hurts her. And the White House will not be awarded on sympathy points.

[webstersII]

"put up a conservative...

Yep, you got it. Now if only the GOP can get it."

I disagree with your comment.

There are tons of people even here on FR that don't really want a conservative. Many of them don't really want a smaller gov't, which is the cornerstone of the conservative movement. Oh, they say they want a smaller gov't, but they still like the prescription meds programs for seniors and more social security bennies, they want gov't to outlaw everything that bugs them, from smokers to people driving while talking on cell phones, etc., etc.

So, my point is, there aren't very many true conservatives left out there. One of the reasons that Bush won is because he's not that conservative. If the GOP fields a true conservative then he won't even carry the GOP base.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[Jim Verdolini]

"All she needs is 40 to 44% or so and she will run. They are great campaigners and they could close the gap rapidly."

'They' are not great campaigners...he is. Hillary is dead in any occassion where she does not control the audience and the media.

[Jim Verdolini]

"I don't think anyone's ever got it right as to who will emerge as the front runner two years out with anything other than blind luck. For all the whispers coming from Hilary's camp, it means nothing, not at this time."

This is the argument I use on my wife, who lives in constant fear of shrill Hill. I ask her to remind me of who were the front runners 2 years out of any presidential election. I asked her about President Cuomo and Nominee Dean.

We have not idea who the candidates will be today.

[hosepipe]

[ More than 30 months before the 2008 election, Sen. Clinton can't get more than 50 percent of the vote when matched against two unknown Republican candidates? ]

WHICH Vote?.. The Voter fraud vote plus the illegal and legal alien(insurgent), and the always potent dead vote.. -OR- The Denial Vote..

The MsM, MsP, Hollywood, Oprah, Academic, the American female DITZ's, havn't even started the main propaganda campaign yet...

[Les_Miserables]

Well I disagree with your statement but...If Bush ran today he would not stand a chance in h@ll of winning, he has simply fractured the base too badly and he cannot put Humpty Dumpty back together again and would lose to even a weak Democrat, except the deservedly despised Hitlery. The GOP needs independents and a slice of the minorities to win the POTUS even with the Conservative Base but they simply cannot win without the Conservative base and that base expects some serious adherance to principal, which is more clearly than ever missing in this POTUS. I believe a true conservative will not be allowed to run for president for the fear that you are are right (and I don't believe you are) but we can push some into congress (and push some RINOs out). If the GOP expects to win the POTUS in '08 and the tinfoil hats may think they don't want to, they had d@mn well better put someone up who walks and talks like a conservative at least. In any case they will have little to point to as reasons we should stay with the GOP except the Boogie Man argument and that just ain't gonna fly anymore. My opinion, your mileage may vary.

[grapeape]

Some of it depends on who she runs against but remember that both Gore and Kerry are complete idiots. We all know how despicable these people are. They still got 52 million people to vote for them. Is she can make voting for her FUN then she can make it.

[grapeape]

you said this -"But she is a terrible campaigner in that she comes across as arrogant, incompetent and worst of all, just not likable."

Is this really the issue that the 52 or so million people voted for Gore and Kerry? She has the same appeal that the other two have. IF they can get those people to vote for them then she can.

[grapeape]

Remember that it is still early in game. Your right that she needs 51% in order to be strong BUT she needs that going into the primary not now. A short campaign with 90% of the mainstream media behind her can easily get her 10 points. Then we are off to the races.

[grapeape]

The maninsream media will give her anything she wants. What everyone here needs to learn about the media is that they have centered their whole lives around putting a candidate like her into office. All of their one sided education, social interactions, their excuses to do drugs, their problems with sex.... everything comes down to this.

For you military guys the best analogy for this tactical situation is the Battle of the Bulge. We are overconfident, scattered and busy arguing among ourselves. They will catch us with our pants down. So the questions are: Who will be our engineers to slow down the enemies advance? Who will be our 101 airborne,9th and 10th armored brigades to hold the center? Who will be the Patton to turn the enemies flank?