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California Republicans: Arnold's No RINO! (Conservatives Support Him)
Human Events ^ | June 6, 2006 | John Gizzi

Posted on 06/04/2006 9:45:10 PM PDT by FairOpinion

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To: FairOpinion
Only those who were using McClintock as an excuse to try to divide conservatives, but in reality they wanted to get Bustamante, Angelides and the likes elected are the ones who don't support Arnold, because their real objective is not to advance the conservative agenda, but to advance the Dem takeover of CA.

I don't agree with that at all. I think they just didn't realize that electing a RINO is far better than allowing a lib to win.

21 posted on 06/04/2006 11:19:51 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: South40

Nobody can be that naive. Most are able to figure out that having a leftist Dem elected is a disaster for CA.

"Like other conservatives, Baugh hopes that a Schwarzenegger re-election this fall will give the state GOP what he calls “a bench,a conservative bench — Tom McClintock as lieutenant governor and Chuck Poochigian as attorney general.” Both candidates are strong conservatives across-the-board and rated better than even chances to emerge triumphant over far-left Democratic foes this November. "


22 posted on 06/04/2006 11:22:54 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion

Well if it's Arnold vs a Loonie, . . .


23 posted on 06/04/2006 11:29:54 PM PDT by StJacques
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To: FairOpinion

It'll never happen, but Arnold could really stick it to the Democrats by getting reelected, and if McClintock gets the Lt. Gov. spot, resigning so that McClintock could take over.

Sometimes I like to fantasize before starting the day.


24 posted on 06/05/2006 5:56:11 AM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: FairOpinion
Like other conservatives, Baugh hopes that a Schwarzenegger re-election this fall will give the state GOP what he calls “a bench,a conservative bench—Tom McClintock as lieutenant governor and Chuck Poochigian as attorney general.” Both candidates are strong conservatives across-the-board and rated better than even chances to emerge triumphant over far-left Democratic foes this November.

Historically, electing RINOs at the head of the ticket is not the way to get conservatives into office.

I think the two conservatives being dangled before conservative voters will somehow fail to get elected. It will be a great mystery.
25 posted on 06/05/2006 6:43:56 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: FairOpinion
"The premise follows a scheme previously found most often on talk radio programs: a liberal activist calls a conservative radio host, such as Rush Limbaugh or Laura Ingraham, and delivers the line: “I’ve been voting Republican for 30 years, but I’ve finally had it and I’m not voting this year.” Or my favorite: “I’m a Reagan Republican, but I’m fed up and voting for John Kerry.” (Because that is what Reagan Republicans would do, vote for John Kerry.) At this point, the host usually asks a couple of questions and it becomes painfully obvious that the supposed Reagan Republican has probably never voted for anyone left of Michael Dukakis.

You know, we hear this a lot. But have you ever known any Republican who switched their vote or failed to vote because of this bilge? I haven't.

I think this is a tactic that is used by Dim activists to encourage Rush's liberal listeners (and they do listen!) to vote because they aren't very faithful or steady voters. IOW, it's to keep disaffected or discouraged liberals on the reservation and get them to turn out to vote.
26 posted on 06/05/2006 6:49:47 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: FairOpinion
Fabian Nunez might eventually take the CA governorship. There is a video featuring him that you need to see if you haven't yet. It’s here.

It shows him on stage at a large anti-proposition 187 rally in L.A. in 1994. It's all in Spanish (which I don't speak), but this is what I get out of it:

Nunez (in the short-sleeved shirt) introduces Juan Jose Gutierrez of the SEIU to make a speech to the crowd. Alongside him stands a mariachi band. Behind the mariachi band is a large 13-starred colonial-era American flag - essentially signifying the U.S. minus “Aztlan.” After Gutierrez's speech, the mariachi band mockingly plays a droning version of the Star-Spangled Banner, while Nunez and a few other people stand talking to each other on stage. After the National Anthem is finished, with chants of "Mexico, Mexico" from the crowd, the band starts an enthusiastic rendition of the Mexican national anthem - and then everyone on stage, including Nunez, immediately comes to attention. Gutierriez blocks the view of Nunez most of the time the Mexican anthem is played, but the latter can at least be seen giving the black (brown?) power salute.

Although Nunez didn’t mind disrespecting our flag and national anthem during this rally, he happened to find it appropriate to salute the Mexican flag (search on the page for the word “Nunez”) during an official trip to Mexico *after* becoming Speaker of the Assembly.

This guy really, really needs to be put out of office.
27 posted on 06/05/2006 6:58:42 AM PDT by ruination
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To: paul51
Schwarzenegger is a gun grabber

Unfortunately he did sign the .50 caliber ban. However, he has vetoed all other gun control bills. If we get a Dem governor, you'll see a flood of new gun control laws being passed.

28 posted on 06/05/2006 7:28:37 AM PDT by jrp
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To: goldstategop
Conservatives Support A Liberal.

Spare me, he repealed then vetoed giving driver's licenses to illegals, vetoed gay marriage, vetoed gay schoolbooks. Davis did and would have signed all of these. Hell! In a momement of lucidity he even said the thought the minutemen were a good idea, which is more than I can say for the President.

29 posted on 06/05/2006 9:20:28 AM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: FairOpinion

I support Arnold. Just yesterday my brother said he might not vote for Arnold in November depending on what the competition looks like. I said I'm up on the competition (Westly & Angelides) and Arnold's the clear choice. I think when the Democrat candidate becomes a known quantity Republicans will see Arnold's not so bad after all. If they stay home in November, they're damned foolish.


30 posted on 06/05/2006 1:20:13 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Don't use illegals: HIREPATRIOTS.COM)
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To: nickcarraway
You're pushing BULL. The audit was done and as a result some changes have been made including the selling of excess inventory by the state. Did you miss the public hearings on ideas that came out of that effort?

He thought things were going to be easy, which turned out not to be true.

He thought things were going to be so easy that he may have destroyed his political capital taking on the unions in an unpopular special election. His mistake was thinking Republicans would support him and the Media would give his ideas a fair hearing.

31 posted on 06/05/2006 1:23:33 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Don't use illegals: HIREPATRIOTS.COM)
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To: newzjunkey

There was an audit done, but it wasn't the complete, "opening of the books" that was promised.


32 posted on 06/05/2006 1:34:18 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: newzjunkey
His mistake was thinking Republicans would support him

Who is full of it. Republicans did support him in the special election. His mistake was not doing this sooner. He waited and tried to negotiate, then he was not as strong when the special election came around. If he had hels the Dems to the fire when he was still in his honeymoon period, he would have had more leverage.

33 posted on 06/05/2006 1:36:31 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: FairOpinion

So, all true conservatives will vote Republican no matter what, and the rest are just "fakes", is that what you're saying?


34 posted on 06/05/2006 1:41:21 PM PDT by stands2reason (You cannot bully or insult conservatives into supporting your guy.)
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To: newzjunkey; nickcarraway
You're pushing BULL. The audit was done and as a result some changes have been made including the selling of excess inventory by the state. Did you miss the public hearings on ideas that came out of that effort?

Not so.

May 20, 2004
Governor hasn't delivered on pledge to cut waste
Daniel Weintraub, Sacramento Bee

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger was asked a few days ago whatever happened to the audit of state government he promised as a candidate. Didn't he say, over and over, that it would be done within 60 days of his taking office?

"Yeah, give or take a year," Schwarzenegger quipped. "We will get there. Don't worry about it."

Give the governor points for honesty, even if it is belated. He has now admitted that his campaign pledge to audit the books and then wipe out "that crazy deficit" was easier said than done.

But Schwarzenegger's flip comment suggests the governor doesn't realize how much of his persona depended, and still does, on that pledge and what it represented. He was elected as a reformer, someone who could make long-needed change that his predecessors, laden with political baggage and too much respect for the status quo, could never bring themselves to do.

35 posted on 06/05/2006 3:24:12 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl; newzjunkey; nickcarraway; All
AND THE ARTICLE CONTINUES and I highly recommend people read it, because your excerpting gives an ERRONEOUS impression. I need to limit my excerpting, but the article is a "must read" -- it shows Arnold's persistence and tenacity in digging up fraud, waste, and abuse and truly streamlining the government. Here is a bit more (from the link of the article you posted and excerpted in a misleading way):

"The funny thing is that while Schwarzenegger is guilty of over-promising, his administration is actually making slow, steady progress on this front.

Schwarzenegger could have packaged those findings separately and released them as the "audit" he had promised earlier, but he and his staff chose not to do that. Instead, they kept pushing.

The performance review continues, and its results will trickle out over time. The first major policy proposal to emerge was a plan to streamline the tracking of the state's assets, to put into one database all the information about the land and buildings the state owns, so that surplus property can be identified, and if need be, sold.

The governor created a California Performance Review, and brought in an expert from Texas to lead a comprehensive, line-by-line assessment of state government, looking to find waste and to consider a reorganization of the bureaucracy. "

36 posted on 06/05/2006 3:44:21 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: South40
I should have clarified my statement -- for a long time, I assumed that all those who claim to be conservatives, are honest and sincere in their views. And certainly there are a lot of them, those are the ones, who are able to recognize that you vote for the most conservative electable candidate, but you never, never help the Dems.

It took me a while, but I found that there is another "class" of people who claim to be conservatives, who not only help the Dems win, but even on propositions, gave preposterous reasons for voting WITH the Dems and unions to defeat conservative propositions, such as the spending limit, that real conservatives and Arnold pushed hard in the special election. Now how conservative is someone who does that???

And some expressed that they rather have the Dems win, even if it's the like of Bustamante or Angelides -- this after seeing what disaster they have been for CA. Again, how conservative is that?

Those people are NOT naive, they are indeed people who are using that excuse to try to confuse real conservatives -- as that article mentions, that I posted.
37 posted on 06/05/2006 3:57:39 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion

I personally love Arnie.


38 posted on 06/05/2006 3:58:52 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: FairOpinion

And the California Performance Review was a telephone book of mishmash that was totally abandoned.
Learn the facts, FO.


39 posted on 06/05/2006 4:06:26 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: FairOpinion; calcowgirl; Amerigomag; Carry_Okie; NormsRevenge; SierraWasp
"... and conservative Orange County support Arnold."

So you think that because Scott Baugh, a certified New Majority RINO, supports Arnold, that must mean Orange County conservatives support Arnold. But then I suppose that's the sort of thinking we can expect from Arnold's head cheerleader and chief sycophant.

RINO Baugh was part of a purging of the Orange County Republican Central Committee that included dumping Tom Fuentes, formerly the head of that committee and a certified conservative. That purge was orchestrated by the silk sock, country club, party-above-principle New Majority pecksniffs. Your, and Arnold's, kind of people.

In other words, as usual, you don't know what in the hell you're talking about.

40 posted on 06/05/2006 4:07:01 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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