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The Truth, John Kerry, and The New York Times
Real Clear Politics ^ | 06/05/06 | Thomas Lipscomb

Posted on 06/04/2006 8:01:40 PM PDT by Starman417

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To: Grampa Dave

" Where is the signed 180 ???? "


81 posted on 06/05/2006 7:29:15 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: OKIEDOC
How can anyone with any amount of common sense now matter how small, associate the word truth with the New York Times. Truth to the New York Times is any thing close to Fake But Accurate.

IMO, "How"..isn't the issue. Because people do.

"WHY" is the bigger fish....and IMO there lies the story.

82 posted on 06/05/2006 7:34:13 AM PDT by Osage Orange (The pen is mightier than the................pigs.)
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To: Grampa Dave
The Slimes is a maggot infested PR arm of the DNC

which has never told the truth about Nam, Kerry, Kennedy, GW, and the WOT.

The Slimes is terminally infected with the liar virus

and the liar virus is the core of its corporate culture.

The NY Slimes is destroying itself with its daily lies.

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You don't like the NY TIMES any more than I do.

I cried for a while after I saw from your chart

how much the stock market value of the NY TIMES has lost on the in last couple years.

Really in the toilet, huh?

.

83 posted on 06/05/2006 7:35:26 AM PDT by MrCruncher
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To: Grampa Dave

Great choice of items on the same chart (contrasting Haliburton and the basic index against the plummet of the NY TIMES stock).

Please post again where relevant in the future.


84 posted on 06/05/2006 7:39:32 AM PDT by MrCruncher
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To: MrCruncher

I got the idea of posting the Haliburton chart, HAL from Peter Cooper. Haliburton has probably had as many lies spun against it and drive by shooting attempts from the Slimes as GW has. Yet their stock has soared while the NYT has dropped.

The NYT is in the Mid Cap category, and I use that chart to compare the reality of the index and the reality of NYT. I have sent that chart to Mutual Fund Managers who have invested in the NYT. Then I have asked them why they make such bad investment decision like the NYT when such a simple and good investment like MDY is available.


85 posted on 06/05/2006 7:50:27 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: george76

"" Where is the signed 180 ???? "

If Moi Kerry is not guilty of treason, sedition and stabbing his fellow sailors/soldiers/marines and airmen in the back, he could sign a 180 for a complete release of his records.

He never will do that.


86 posted on 06/05/2006 7:56:00 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: Grampa Dave
LEFTWING WASHINGTON POST AT WORK

Notice the PLACEMENT in today’s paper

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Iraqis Accuse Marines in April Killing Of Civilian

Disabled Man's Family Disputes Troops' Story

By Ellen Knickmeyer Washington Post Foreign Service

Monday, June 5, 2006; Page A01

_________________________________________________________________

Gunmen Kill Students, Others on Iraqi Buses

By Nelson Hernandez and Naseer Nouri Washington Post Foreign Service

Monday, June 5, 2006; Page A11

http://www.washingtonpost.com/?reload=true

87 posted on 06/05/2006 7:58:11 AM PDT by MrCruncher
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To: Interesting Times
That will certainly come as a surprise to anyone reading this story which lays down a lot of unproven statements as fact, unproven and unconfirmed by Kate Zernike,

How would you like have that statement in your resume?

Thanks for the ping.

Regards,

TS

88 posted on 06/05/2006 7:59:24 AM PDT by The Shrew (www.swiftvets.com & www.wintersoldier.com - The Truth Shall Set YOU Free!)
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To: Grampa Dave

DO you get any answers from them?


89 posted on 06/05/2006 8:00:30 AM PDT by MrCruncher
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To: Interesting Times
"The NY SLIMES" is NOT a credible source on ANY subject. that rag as been caught in too many outright LIES. remember "shattered Glass"???

readers should believe ANYTHING therein at their peril.

free dixie,sw

90 posted on 06/05/2006 8:02:22 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Wait . . . You may have posted the only picture of John Kerry actually wearing his Magic Hat . . . unless others have more.


91 posted on 06/05/2006 8:02:45 AM PDT by Trochilus
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To: Starman417
I find it upsetting when John Kerry uses the verb "Swiftboated", which introduces a false premise that he was unjustly tarred as a liar, by a bunch of lying Swiftboaters. I think when all the smoke clears, the world will see what a liar John Kerry really is. I have yet to see what Swiftboat claim has been proven a lie.
92 posted on 06/05/2006 8:04:53 AM PDT by jackieaxe (Democrats are mired in a culture of screwing English speaking, taxpaying, law abiding citizens!)
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To: bitt

What other lefty has THREE Purple Hearts?


93 posted on 06/05/2006 8:08:08 AM PDT by MrCruncher
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To: MrCruncher

You have exposed one of the big tricks of the Fishwraps. Page 1 is where any lies/spins about our side goes.

Hidden inside of the fishwrap is the real story, like this sad reality you posted: "Gunmen Kill Students, Others on Iraqi Buses."

Then hidden even deeper will be any admission that the fishwrap lied, spun or made a mistake in one of their front page lies about our side.


94 posted on 06/05/2006 8:11:06 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: MrCruncher

If I hear from them, it is their standard reply, "Thanks for communicating with us. We don't have time to answer all emails."


95 posted on 06/05/2006 8:13:05 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: Grampa Dave
ANOTHER lefty TECHNIQUE------------

Liberal to the Last Drop: Couric's Goodbye Highlights Hardballs for GOP, Softballs for Dems

Today Show/NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

by Mark Finkelstein May 31, 2006

You have to admire the consistency of Katie Couric and her Today show crew. In her final appearance as Today show host, we were treated to a litany of parting shots at Republicans and bouquets tossed to Democrats. In the first half-hour, the emphasis was on Katie-the-hard-nosed-reporter, asking the tough questions. But . . . surprise! the only objects of pointed inquiries were non-Democrats.

First was her famous ambush interview of Pres. George H.W. Bush when the ostensible purpose of her White House visit was a tour with Barbara Bush on the occasion of the building's 200th anniversary:

Couric to Bush: "Some Democrats say you have not leveled about your knowledge of Iran-Contra."

Next was this question/snipe for Ross Perot: "Some people are left with the impression that you're vindictive, that you're ruthless. a sore loser, and they don't feel comfortable with that."

She was seen interviewing Kofi Annan and Bill Clinton, but there were no questions, no context.

But when Bob Dole appeared, in an interview from some campaign past , Tough Katie suddenly re-appeared: "Some people think from your comments that you've made of late that you're being an apologist for the tobacco industry, that somehow they have you in their pocket."

To Dan Quayle, presumably on the eve of his VP debate with Al Gore: "Some people think Al Gore is going to eat you alive in the debate."

Note the 'some people' trope, used four times here and on countless occasions during Couric's interviewing career to put in the mouths of other, unidentified, people, what would seem to be in Couric's own heart and mind.

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96 posted on 06/05/2006 8:18:15 AM PDT by MrCruncher
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To: Starman417

BTTT!


97 posted on 06/05/2006 8:24:27 AM PDT by FMBass (“Now that I’m sober I watch a lot of news” – Garofalo: From “Treason” by Coulter)
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To: rock58seg

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1631650/posts


98 posted on 06/05/2006 8:34:27 AM PDT by MrCruncher
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To: Grampa Dave
NEW YORK TIMES IN CRISIS

............................................................... http://www.nypost.com/business/65119.htm

SEEKS EXPERT HELP WITH SHAREHOLDER REVOLT

By JANET WHITMAN NY POST

April 27, 2006 -- Facing shareholder dissent and getting flak for bloated executive pay deals, The New York Times is frantically searching for crisis p.r. experts as the company gears up for a public battle over the future of the newspaper giant. Exactly what sort of assault The Times might be in for isn't yet clear. Chairman Arthur "Pinch" Sulzberger Jr. and other top management have been criticized for putting off the concerns of Morgan Stanley portfolio manager Hassan Elmasry and for a share price that's plummeted 50 percent since 2002.

Soon after Morgan's attack last week on The Times, the publisher's spokeswoman, Catherine Mathis, was phoning Knight Ridder spokesman Polk Laffoon seeking advice, sources familiar with the matter said.

Knight Ridder, which put itself on the block last year under pressure from unhappy shareholders, used Joele Frank, Wilkinson Brimmer Katcher, a New York p.r. firm with a long list of clients in crisis, at the urging of its investment bankers.

Mathis called Joele Frank, sources said, but the firm wasn't an option because it was already taken - by Morgan Stanley.

Mathis got the recommendation of some rivals, sources said. On the list are Abernathy McGregor, Citigate Sard Verbinnen and Kekst.

Those firms either declined to comment or couldn't be reached for comment.

Mathis declined to comment on The Times' search for outside p.r.

In addition to fallout from the Jayson Blair scandal and Judith Miller's controversial imprisonment, The Times' business has been suffering.

The paper lost nearly 20 percent of its readers in the five boroughs between 2001 and 2004, as it pushed to reinvent itself as a national publication. Its daily circulation in New York City fell to 260,526 copies from 320,682.

Despite the sagging stock performance and job cuts across the company, Sulzberger and CEO Janet Robinson were awarded hefty payouts. Robinson's 2005 restricted stock award jumped nearly fivefold from a year earlier to roughly $2 million.

Sulzberger's stock award nearly doubled to $817,500.

Morgan Stanley's investment arm, a longtime shareholder of The Times with a 5 percent stake, blasted management for the executive compensation and for failing to address the company's woeful stock price. It also called for an end to The Times' two-tier stock system, which it said "fosters a lack of accountability."

Morgan Stanley's Elmasry, taking his first activist stance, went public with his gripes out of frustration, sources said.

He had written a series of letters to Times management over the past year with suggestions on how the company could boost its stock price.

But his attempts to meet with Sulzberger were rebuffed until Elmasry wrote a letter to the entire board, which pushed "Pinch" to meet with the investo>/b>r, sources said.

Elmasry's success might depend on the stance of other large investors, such as Bruce Sherman's Private Capital Management, the firm that forced Knight Ridder to sell itself.

PCM, The Times' largest non-family shareholder with a 14-percent stake, has declined to comment.

But investors are clearly disgruntled, as highlighted by the 28 percent withhold vote for the election of four directors at the company's annual meeting last week.

janet.whitman@nypost.com

99 posted on 06/05/2006 8:36:30 AM PDT by MrCruncher
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To: MrCruncher

Some People or a reliable but unnamed source is an old sniper tool for these ambush pseudo journalists.


100 posted on 06/05/2006 9:26:26 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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