Posted on 06/04/2006 12:46:20 PM PDT by seastay
The plan to use National Guard troops to bolster border security was protested yesterday in San Ysidro.
Calling the move “militaristic,” organizers staged a rally and a march, which went from the community's Larsen Field Park to the U.S.-Mexico border.
The rally also drew a counterprotest by members of the Minuteman Project, the controversial citizen border patrol, who clustered along Camino de la Plaza, an avenue bordering the park. The two groups took verbal jabs at each other throughout the afternoon.
Police said it was largely a civil protest, with one arrest. A man was taken to jail after what police said was an assault on an officer.
At one point, when the march began and protesters neared the Minutemen, police had to stand between the two factions.
“Racists, go home!” the protesters chanted.
“Illegal aliens, go home!” the Minutemen responded.
San Diego police, which beefed up staffing for this rally, estimated the protesters numbered 200.
About two dozen Minutemen were present.
Elva Salinas, a protest organizer, did not give an estimate of the crowd size. She said to ask the police.
The crowd, while not as substantial as at past rallies, was vocal. Tuesday is election day and several events regarding that may have siphoned supporters, said Salinas, an English professor at San Diego City College
“You're always disappointed when you don't get a million people for a protest. But we had quality people,” she said.
The rally was in answer to President Bush's call for the National Guard to assist the U.S. Border Patrol.
California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger – who initially expressed concerns about the plan, particularly its funding – agreed last week to use the troops. About 1,000 are expected to be on the border by mid-summer.
The concept rattles protesters. “You call the National Guard for a state of emergency, not this,” said Ajamu Edmonson, a community activist from San Diego. “It's a last resort.”
Protesters also called for amnesty for those who are here illegally.
The Minutemen said the protesters are out of touch with mainstream America and that border security, as it stands now, is a farce.
“They want open borders,” said Jeff Schwilk, the founder of San Diego Minutemen, who was taking part in the counterprotest. “They want it open to drug dealers, terrorists and criminals. That's how I read it.”
The protest had its bizarre moments. A man dressed in a Ku Klux Klan outfit showed up on the Minutemen side, drawing jeers from the protesters.
He was pulled away by police. The Minutemen people said he was not part of their effort.
The police presence was considerable. More than 50 officers were present, including 15 on motorcycles and six on horseback.
“We had a few little conflicts,” said Lt. Tony McElroy, who was in charge. “But it could have been worse.”
Either a mexican or worked up liberal student without a cognative thought in his head.
I'll take the "quality" of the Minutemen over the criminals any day
I just *love* the way the media reflexively labels patriots like the Minutemen "controversial" while sparing the "organizers" and "protestors" the same label.
the media reveal, with their every spineless utterance, that they are nothing other than anti-American asshats.
How long before this turns violent? hours? days?
Check out her "call to action."
Saturday, June 3, 2006
Rally Point: Larsen Park 455 Sycamore Rd San Ysidro, CA San Ysidro, CA
1:00 PM Rally
6/3 San Ysidro, CA: Western Regional Protest and March!
Prof. Elva Salinas/619-962-2132 Jazmin Morelos/619-274-0894
WHAT: Western Regional Rally June 3rd 1:00pm at Larsen Park 455 Sycamore Rd San Ysidro, CA against the deployment of 6,000 National Guards to the U.S.-Mexico border region.
This is an act of intimidation and violence. Immigration shall continue until the real problem is addressed. Militarization of the border will only increase the number of humans whose rights continue to be violated and die along that region. We make a call to our community, to the communities in the Western Region, and to all oppressed communities to organize and oppose these fascist tactics- We say NO to the militarization of the border! No to the Racist Minutemen! No to the Racist Legislations! No to guest-worker programs! Aqui estamos y no nos vamos!! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
Saturday, June 3, 2006
http://www.indybay.org/news/2006/05/1826152.php
Oppressed communities? I thought they were the majority there. I guess if there is one evil whitey left in the entire State of California they will be "oppressed." What a load of bs.
No doubt she is also a member of the communist party.
The Minute Men are "controversial".
The border protesters are not.
More nonbiased reporting from the MSM.
That is all there is to eat?
UNITED WE STAND BECAUSE WE ARE AMERICANS
As a child I remember chanting:
Sticks and Stones May Break My Bones but Names Will Never Hurt Me. (Only make me mad)
Saturday June 3,2006 at the border (on American soil) protest, protesting illegal aliens we were called:
Bigot
Natzi
Racists
KKK
Fascist
All because we were protesting illegal.
Our right as legal American citizen.
Interesting what words and excuses people can come up with when they are breaking the law.
Funny, I hadn't thought of that jingle in more than 30 years.
What part of Illegal Immigration does Prof. Elva Salinas not understand !
"Militarization of the border will only increase the number of humans whose rights continue to be violated and die along that region."
Lets call it what it is! Illegal rights!
Fight for your human rights in Mexico!
Legal Immigrants have rights in this county, Illegal does not!
And futhermore this has nothing to do with of what decendant you are.
"No to the Racist Minutemen!"
Since when does protecting our border make you a racist.
I almost forgot, at the protest we were also called a" WHITEIE"
If that isn't racist, I'll be damed!
After reading Prof. Elva Salinas web sights, I see her as only promoting
hatetred and illegal rights and covering it up as a human cause.
Oh, and hungry and from a broken home, my heart bleeds for you!
And you made something of yourself, good for you!
But I hate to inform you, your not unique., so have a lot of us.
What is this woman doing in our USA school system !
Almost forgot, "quality people"
What I saw was miss guided students filled with hate and racial slurs.
I wonder where they got all those racial slurs from????
Where is the money comming from to support all their rallys and protest???
Mexican drug dealers???? Theres something to think about!
Barb & I were here also with the Minutemen after our protest downtown San Diego in front of Gov.Arnolds office.
We got to San Ysidro about 11:30, right after the downtown protest.
By Michael Stetz
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER
June 4, 2006
The plan to use National Guard troops to bolster border security was protested yesterday in San Ysidro.
Calling the move “militaristic,” organizers staged a rally and a march, which went from the community's Larsen Field Park to the U.S.-Mexico border.
The rally also drew a counterprotest by members of the Minuteman Project, the controversial citizen border patrol, who clustered along Camino de la Plaza, an avenue bordering the park.
The two groups took verbal jabs at each other throughout the afternoon.
* (I'M SURE I WAS ONE OF THE LOUDEST, IF NOT THE LOUDEST, IN FACT I THINK I WAS THE ONE THAT STARTED ANSWERING BACK.
I WAS NOT TO BE INTIMIDATED BY THAT MEXICAN FLAG AND ILLEGAL PEOPLE S RIGHTS ON AMERICAN SOIL!)
BARB & I CARRIED BIG AMERICAN FLAGS! (Like "Big Annie")
Police said it was largely a civil protest, with one arrest. A man was taken to jail after what police said was an assault on an officer.
* (TELL IT LIKE IT WAS! MEXICAN PROTESTER HAD A KNIFE!)
At one point, when the march began and protesters neared the Minutemen, police had to stand between the two factions.
“Racists, go home!” the protesters chanted.
* (HE FORGOT THEY CHANTED THIS IS OUR LAND)
“Illegal aliens, go home!” the Minutemen responded.
San Diego police, which beefed up staffing for this rally, estimated the protesters numbered 200.
About two dozen Minutemen were present.
* (SEVERAL FROM THE EARLIER PROTEST "Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger office" DIDN'T COME ALONG, AS WE WERE WARNED THERE MIGHT BE TROUBLE AS THERE WAS TO BE ABOUT A 1000 THERE.)
Elva Salinas, a protest organizer, did not give an estimate of the crowd size. She said to ask the police.
The crowd, while not as substantial as at past rallies, was vocal. Tuesday is election day and several events regarding that may have siphoned supporters, said Salinas, an English professor at San Diego City College
* AND BOY WHERE THEY VOCAL!
“You're always disappointed when you don't get a million people for a protest. But we had quality people,” she said.
* (SHE IS FULL OF IT! QUALITY PEOPLE MY EYE!) EVEN THOUGH SHE IS AN ENGLISH PROFESSOR, I GUESS SHE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT A DEADBEAT OR FREELOADER IS, OR WHAT THE WORD ILLEGAL MEANS.
AND AS IF SHE HAS THE MARKET ON BEING POOR & COMMING FROM A BROKEN HOME, BOO HOO,
MY HEART BLEEDS FOR HER! JOIN THE CROWD LADY, YOUR NOT UNIQUE!!
The rally was in answer to President Bush's call for the National Guard to assist the U.S. Border Patrol.
California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger – who initially expressed concerns about the plan, particularly its funding – agreed last week to use the troops. About 1,000 are expected to be on the border by mid-summer.
* (WAS TO BE JUNE 1st., NOW HE SAYS THE 14th or 15th. ) WE WILL SEE
WATCH IT ARNOLD - YOUR RATINGS ARE DOWN! YOU BETTER STEP UP TO THE PLATE!
MEXICO DOESN'T OWN CALIFORNIA YET, NO MATTER WHAT THEY THINK.
The concept rattles protesters. “You call the National Guard for a state of emergency, not this,” said Ajamu Edmonson, a community activist from San Diego. “It's a last resort.”
* IT IS A LAST RESORT!
REMEMBER THEM FLYING THE AMERICAN FLAG UPSIDE DOWN!
I GUESS THEY CALL THEIR AMMESTY PROTEST A DISTRESS SIGNAL
Protesters also called for amnesty for those who are here illegally.
*SINCE WHEN DO WE GIVE AMMESTY FOR BREAKING THE LAW!
DOESN'T LEGAL MEAN ANYTHING, OR IS IT JUST A WORD.
The Minutemen said the protesters are out of touch with mainstream America and that border security, as it stands now, is a farce.
*AFTER THE PROTEST, WE TOURED THE BORDER WITH THE MINUTEMEN, WATCHED 3 ILLEGALS COMMING ACROSS) (The border security is a joke, scarry as anyone could come through. Where is our "HOME LAND SECURITY") YES, I AM PROUD TO SAY Barb & I HAVE DECIEDED TO JOINED THE MINUTEMEN AND STAND UP FOR AMERICIA AND OUR LEGAL RIGHTS AS LEGAL CITIZENS.
“They want open borders,” said Jeff Schwilk, the founder of San Diego Minutemen, who was taking part in the counterprotest. “They want it open to drug dealers, terrorists and criminals. That's how I read it.”
The protest had its bizarre moments. A man dressed in a Ku Klux Klan outfit showed up on the Minutemen side, drawing jeers from the protesters.
* (THE MINUTEMEN ASKED THE POLICE TO REMOVE HIM! I WAS THERE!!!)
* THIS FOR SURE WAS A SET UP!
He was pulled away by police. The Minutemen people said he was not part of their effort. (CORRECT!)
The police presence was considerable. More than 50 officers were present, including 15 on motorcycles and six on horseback.
“We had a few little conflicts,” said Lt. Tony McElroy, who was in charge. “But it could have been worse.”
* THE WORST PART WAS, WITH ALL THE TV STATIONS THERE, ONLY THE MEXICANS & THEIR MEXICAN FLAGS GOT THE COVERAGE, IT WAS EDITED BIG TIME!!!
WHERE WERE WE AND OUR AMERICIAN FLAGS????
I GUESS WE AREN'T NEWS WORTHY.
FOR WE ONLY FOLLOW THE LAW, PAY TAXES, ARE LEGAL, AND MOST OF US DON'T LOOK FOR A FREE RIDE!
AND BY THE WAY, WE DID PAY FOR CALIFORNIA!!!!!!GO BACK AND READ A HISTORY BOOK.
I"M TOLD THE UNIONTRIB. HAS A PICTURE IN IT OF THIS EVENT AND BARB & I ARE IN IT, I'LL SEE IT TOMORROW.
I MUST SAY IN CLOSING, I WILL CALL THE POLICE " SAN DIEGOS FINEST" THEY WERE GREAT,VERY CALM & POLITE.
DID A GREAT JOB BETWEEN BOTH SIDES OF PROTESTERS IN KEEPING IT PEACEFUL.
Don't get caught up with bashing liberals, I'm a liberal Grandma and I was there with the minutemen making a stand.
Where were you?????
And yes, anyone with half a brain knows the KKK person was a plant!
I'm not a REP. or DEM. , I vote the man or woman whom I think is good for my country, not the party!!
UNITED WE STAND BECAUSE WE ARE AMERICANS
AND I DO BELIEVE MORE AMERICANS SHOULD GET OFF THEIR BUTTS & COMPUTERS AND SUPPORT THESE MINUTEMEN & MINUTEWOMEN
Then you are NOT the person or persons I was talking about.
If you haven't noticed I'm on your side. I appreciate the fact your fired up and criticing the entire thread but you don't need to shout at those on your side, nor refer to them as "half brained".
No I wasn't there I was here in Indiana, I will however be in Texas and New Mexico from 30 June to 10 July, I do my part everyday even on my vacation.
I thank you for your patriotism, I appreciate it, now relax a bit will you. Like I said, I'm on your side.
Liberalism ALWAYS accomplishes the exact opposite of it's stated intent!)
I'm a liberal! I vote the man or woman, not the party!
GET OF THE LIBERALISM THING!
I WAS OUT THERE WITH THE MINUTEMEN, WHERE WERE YOU???
GET OFF YOUR BUTT & COMPUTER AND HELP SUPPORT THE MINUTMEN!
UNITED WE STAND BECAUSE WE ARE AMERICANS
Liberalism ALWAYS accomplishes the exact opposite of it's stated intent!)
I'm a liberal! I vote the man or woman, not the party!
GET OF THE LIBERALISM THING!
I WAS OUT THERE WITH THE MINUTEMEN, WHERE WERE YOU???
GET OFF YOUR BUTT & COMPUTER AND HELP SUPPORT THE MINUTMEN!
UNITED WE STAND BECAUSE WE ARE AMERICANS
Sorry to hear you're a liberal. It's a disease. Seek help.
God I love this "disease", I can think for myself.
I am "An Americian First" Not a Rep. or Dem. As a liberal I vote the man or women, not the party. Blind faith in any one party is a disease!
By the way I now support the "21st Century Paul Revere Ride"
UNITER WE STAND BECAUSE WE ARE AMERICANS
Broken Borders:
"In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American, and nothing but an American...
There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."
--Theodore Roosevelt, 1919
Thank you for your reply.
Now I will relax a bit, at least until June 18,2006.
When "21st Century Paul Revere Riders" will be here in San Diego.
I must get out and support them, cheer them on!
Crazy California Grandma
P.S. sorry about " "half brained", bad choice of words!
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