Pope warns Blair against Iran attack

epolitix.com ^ | June 4 06 | Epolitix

[churchillbuff]

The Pope has told the prime minister to pursue diplomatic solutions to problems in the Middle East, including Iran.

Tony Blair had a private audience with pontiff Benedict XVI at the Vatican on Saturday at the end of a week-long trip to Italy.

The two leaders discussed how "moderate voices" from the world's main religions need to work together to tackle extremism and reduce the risk of terrorism, according to Number 10.

As well as the Middle East, Iran and Iraq, they also covered the fight against poverty in Africa in their first meeting since the Pope succeeded John Paul II last year.

And a Vatican spokesman said: "The Pope did stress that diplomacy and not conflict was the best way forward."

Britain has been at the heart of EU attempts to engage Tehran in talks over its nuclear programme, which bore fruit last week when the US, which has refused to rule out military action, said it would resume direct negotiations.

A Downing Street spokesman said: "The prime minister and the Pope talked about the challenges of globalisation and the importance of dialogue between the faiths to battle extremism and terrorism.

"One of the themes of discussion was how the moderate voices in all the world's major religions need to stand up to religious extremism in all its forms."

[NonValueAdded]

"how many divisions ..."

[Mr. Mojo]

....pursue diplomatic solutions to problems in the Middle East, including Iran.

Already being done. And if they fail, the military option is always available.

[Straight Vermonter]

As usual the content of the article does not match the headline.

[mtbopfuyn]

Has the Pope spoken with the Iranians and have they acted upon his advice? Huh?

[don-o]

Some "major religion" did not get the memo.

[Old_Mil]

Has the Pope spoken with the Iranians and have they acted upon his advice? Huh?

Thanks to the Iranians, a UN proposal to give NAMBLA NGO status was rejected...Guess who voted for it? Why, that would be a UN team led by our very own John B., appointed by our very own "conservative christian" president.

You can rest assured that news of this vote will be spalshed across the pages of every Arabic language newspaper in the middle east and spun as: "Look what the great satan did now!"

Unfortunately - in this case, with this vote - we lived up to that billing.

[kittymyrib]

When did this happen? It must be the best-kept secret of the Bush administration. Please tell us where we can read more about this vote. That our representative would vote for such a loathsome organization at NAMBLA (North American Man-Boy Love Association) and its pedophiles to get NGO status to work in poor countries is so outrageous that this would totally put the lie to any moral credibility this administraton claims to have.

[GladesGuru]

" - how the moderate voices in all the world's major religions need to stand up to religious extremism in all its forms."

"Moderate voices" not backed by overwhelming military might mean little to Jihadistan whackos.

[SteveMcKing]

When did "moderate" start to mean "correct", "good", or otherwise inherently and independently right in any manner whatsoever?

Extreme threats are rightly challenged by extreme remedies, including violence. The pope seems to place an onus upon the innocent to remain in a prone or victimized state and then even to die with sheepish smiles on their faces.

Or in any case, to act only when it is far too late for a desirous outcome.

[GladesGuru]

"UN proposal to give NAMBLA NGO status".

KEWL! ! !

Better to have NAMBLA at the UN with the rest of the perverts than on our streets.

Whadda ya mean, the UN won't take 'em all? Then what's the UN good for?

[avenir]

Not buying it. Source, link, etc. please...

[Old_Mil]

I need to correct my original post - it is IGLA, not NAMBLA that they voted in favor of, but as the article shows, same difference:

United States Backs UN NGO Status for Homosexual Activist Groups Once Associated with Pedophiles By John-Henry Westen NEW YORK, May 19, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - In a move that has pro-family groups shaking their heads, the United States has backed the application of homosexual activist groups to acquire special status at the United Nations. A coalition of largely Asian and African countries sought to dismiss the applications for NGO status of two homosexual activist groups which they felt had not yet sufficiently distanced themselves from pedophilia, and were moreover doubtful of the contributions that the groups would make to the UN's work.
At a meeting of the UN Economic and Social Council Committee on NGO's Tuesday, Iran, with the backing of eight countries, proposed the rejection of the application of 'Lesbian and Gay Federation in Germany'. In submitting her proposal, the representative of Iran, supported by the representative of the Sudan, said concerns about paedophilia had in earlier sessions lead to the rejection of the International Lesbian and Gay Association (ILGA) application. It seemed that now, she contended, that NGOs affiliated with ILGA were applying. It was not clear whether ILGA and affiliated organizations had taken sufficient measures to prevent or fight paedophilia, she stated.
Immediately, Germany attempted to quash the measure by tactics rather than a simple vote on the issue. Germany submitted a motion of 'no action'. The tactical manoeuvre to scuttle the proposal to reject the homosexual activist group,was supported by the United States, as well as Chile, Colombia, France, Germany, Peru and Romania. The US was represented at the meeting by Mariano Ceinos-Cox.
However the motion to take no action was defeated by the block of nine countries.
The vote on Iran's proposal ensued and again the United States voted against the measure. In the end, the Committee rejected NGO status for the homosexual activist group in a recorded vote of 9 in favour (Cameroon, China, Côte d'Ivoire, Iran, Pakistan, Russian Federation, Senegal, Sudan and Zimbabwe), 7 against (Chile, Colombia, France, Germany, Peru, Romania and the United States), and 2 abstentions (India and Turkey).
The exact same scenario played out Wednesday with another homosexual activist group ILGA-Europe. Again the nine countries backed the proposal with Germany unsuccessfully attempting the delay tactic with its contingent of support which included the US. And again the measure passed with the votes the same as the day previous.
The countries which lost the vote on the issue were bitter. Germany and France especially complained of a "discriminatory trend" and an unfair process, however other countries noted that due process was followed.
The Vatican representative, who has only observer status in the committee, took issue with the notion that the demands of homosexual activist organizations had anything to do with human rights. Msgr. Ruben Dimaculangan said sexual orientation was not comparable to race or ethnic origin and homosexuality was not a positive source of human rights. He suggested such groups were in fact not asking for equal rights, but for special rights.
LifeSiteNews.com contacted the US State Department to inquire about its support of NGO status at the United Nations for homosexual activist groups. Calls were not returned by press time. The International Lesbian and Gay Association (ILGA) obtained NGO status with the United Nations in 1993, but thereafter many countries complained of its formal association with pedophile groups including the notorious North American Man-Boy Love Association (NAMBLA). Opposition from the US was particularly intense. In 1994, former President Bill Clinton signed into law a bill proposed by Republican Senator Jesse Helms to withhold $119 million in U.N. contributions until it could be shown that "no UN agency grants any official status, accreditation, or recognition to any organization which promotes, condones, or seeks the legalization of pedophilia, that is, the sexual abuse of children".
ILGA scrambled to expel NAMBLA and similar groups but the UN revoked its NGO status. ILGA still has resolutions which are inline with NAMBLA, namely those against age of consent for sexual activity laws.

[TheCrusader]

Apparently the Bush Administration did cast its vote with the homosexual and pedophile organizations who were seeking status at the U.N. This is from the 'Washington Blade', a homosexual pervert publication, May 25, 2006:

"Philipp Braun, co-secretary general for the International Lesbian & Gay Association in Belgium, said U.S. officials opposed applications by gay groups in January.

“We were very happy that the U.S. changed its position,” he said. “We just want to have a voice at the U.N.”

[Old_Mil]

The entire sordid saga is detailed on thread:

US gay-rights groups claim victory after US switches vote in UN

[avenir]

Just saw your updated info. Still I don't believe Bolton or President Bush approve of such a thing. They cannot stop every bit of insanity at the U.N. Some things they have to let go of knowing we aren't bound to follow any of it.

[TheCrusader]

"Better to have NAMBLA at the UN with the rest of the perverts than on our streets."

What makes you think the U.N. would keep them off the streets? The fact is that the Bush Administration has apparently thrown its weight on the side of homosexual child predators who are seeking to legitimize their status.

[SteveMcKing]

A preferred outcome is what I meant...

[TheCrusader]

I checked out your original post and it was essentially correct. I Googled "Bush Administration homosexual UN vote" and came up with this quote from a homosexual pervert publication called the "Washington Blade.com".

"(Massachusetts Representative Barney) Frank said this week he was pleased that both the United States and Colombia voted May 16 and May 17 to support the gay groups seeking consultative status."

The Bush Administration is really losing all credibility now.