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I believe NSNR was referring to the newspaper headlines in the 60's that said something on the order of:"Prisoner of War Admiral's Son 'Songbird'"

You may be too young to recall that time. There was compassionate reporting of the fact that McCain broke under torture and gave information to the VC.

He is also notorious for having crashed several jets while training.

His pedigree had something to do with the kid gloves that were used to handle these stories. He is the son and the grandson of admirals. He received an appointment to Annapolis. If you knew any Navy officers back then who tried for jets, you would know that it was so difficult to even make the cut, that anyone who went on to qualify after even a single crash had to have juice.

Even if someone would discount that, how can anyone explain away his collusion w/Kerry to destroy MIA/POW records?

About the most mild conclusions I have come to about McCain is that he has gone through life with godfathers in high places, plays the game of politics superbly, and may have been allowed to say publicly as part of the settlement that he divorced his former wife, while she knew the real John McCain and may have just wanted out. Those were very different times.

After returning home to find he was a celebrity, I would not be surprised that McCain evaluated his chances and was advised that he needed to marry photogenic campaign cash. I am sure he had expert advice from family friends.

Back then, Democrats were conservative on most issues except for the far left wing that was against the war. I have always wondered why McCain ran as a Republican. Perhaps because that is where the serious money was?

Yes, I am a cynical old lady. After over 6 decades, you get a feel for human character.

Just listening to him on TV gives me the creepy-crawlies.

Just listening to him on TV gives me the creepy-crawlies.

Me too.

There was compassionate reporting of the fact that McCain broke under torture and gave information to the VC.

I hope that this debate doesn't denigrate McCain for his time as a prisoner of war. I believe 100% of our men broke eventually. Modern military survival training teaches the military to say what whatever needed to stay alive.

I dislike McCain for his ideology. I honor him for his service and doubly honor him that he was tortured for his country. I'm saddened by the FReepers who can't distinguish the difference.