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That may be true in a couple of media markets. The one that comes to mind is Chicago. How much can one attribute the hard swing left of the Chicago suburbs to the Tribune swing to rather reflexively liberal, from hard right? I don't know. But the New York Herald Tribune died when I was a young kid, and the LA Times went left in the Sixties, and I think the networks were more obviously biased back them then now, putting aside Dan Rather. Lately, the Washington Post and now, even the LA Times, after they did their recent purge, are more centrist then they used to be. I don't think the Bush fatigue can be attibuted to the educated being brain washed by the media. I just don't believe that.

"That may be true in a couple of media markets. The one that comes to mind is Chicago. How much can one attribute the hard swing left of the Chicago suburbs to the Tribune swing to rather reflexively liberal, from hard right? I don't know. But the New York Herald Tribune died when I was a young kid, and the LA Times went left in the Sixties"

I think it's more than just a few markets, but it is a chronic problem nationwide. Here in Nashville, there used to be two major papers, the (liberal Democrat) Tennessean, and the (Conservative Republican) Banner. After awhile, the Banner was purchased by Democrats and moved center-left (but was still much more Conservative than the Tennessean, AKA "Praavda on the Cumberland"). When the Banner folded in the mid to late '90s, it gave the Tennessean carte blanche to move even further left. There's no real paper of any size in the largest TN media markets that caters beyond the left. Aside from the Washington Times, I can't really name any substantial right-of-center newspaper publication.

"and I think the networks were more obviously biased back them then now, putting aside Dan Rather."

I think they're even more biased today. I can't turn on any major network news broadcast that doesn't read like a doom and gloom DNC press release. Even Fox News has moved leftward since its inception.

"Lately, the Washington Post and now, even the LA Times, after they did their recent purge, are more centrist then they used to be."

Hadn't noticed. But it's not like I make a habit of reading their op/ed pages.

"I don't think the Bush fatigue can be attibuted to the educated being brain washed by the media. I just don't believe that."

I'd never imply that. As was mentioned, part of it is peer pressure, and some of it is brainwashing from their school days. An arrogant elitism, and it certainly didn't start with this Bush. Go back to the '80s and I saw firsthand the kind of hatred directed at the GOP towards Reagan, portrayed as a stupid, senile, reactionary nut who was anxious to fire off nukes. For awhile, when I was in public school, I believed all of that crap -- you were just told not to question things. When I started to do just that, my stock in trade sunk dramatically amongst these "educators" (and even family). I realized just how much they had invested in villifying the political Right and the GOP. In the end, the hate is all they have left.