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Converted Boeing 747 supertanker set to fight western wildfires
ABC4 TV ^ | 31 May 2006

Posted on 06/03/2006 10:53:21 AM PDT by Fractal Trader

Coming soon to a wildfire near you: The next generation in airborne fire fighting. It is a converted 747-200. Instead of carrying passengers, the retired airliner has been outfitted with huge tanks capable of carrying 20,500 gallons of fire retardant roughly 7 times the amount carried by the largest air tankers in the current, aging fleet.

Evergreen International of Oregon showed off its "supertanker" Tuesday in Boise. Its spent $40,000,000 converting the 747 and is now campaigning to get the Federal land management agencies to add it to their fire fighting arsenal. The Federal government is working out the details of a short term this summer only contract for Evergreen. That will allow fire bosses to put the supertanker to the test. Can it fly low and slow enough to be effective against fires burning in canyons and on mountainsides? Can it operate out of remote airports that are often used to stage air tanker operations? Can it do all while not breaking the budget?

These are just some of the questions they hope to answer during the test period. The company contends that if the supertanker had been in service in 2002, it could have saved $108,000,000 fighting seven major fires that destroyed 1.4 million acres.

(Excerpt) Read more at abc4.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: boeing; firefighting; supersoaker; wildfires
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1 posted on 06/03/2006 10:53:22 AM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: Paleo Conservative

Aerospace ping!


2 posted on 06/03/2006 10:53:46 AM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: Fractal Trader

Probably too big and fast to be of any real use.


3 posted on 06/03/2006 10:56:17 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: Fractal Trader

Is that cool or is that cool!


4 posted on 06/03/2006 10:56:50 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (I would rather be an Iraqi in a Hidatha guarded by Marines, then a subject of Al-Qeda anywhere.)
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To: bnelson44

Yeah. low and slow in a 747 is not my idea of fun.


5 posted on 06/03/2006 10:59:46 AM PDT by patton (What the heck just happened, here?)
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To: Fractal Trader

General Buck Tergis (Dr Strangelove movie)"I love to watch those babies when they come in low......."


6 posted on 06/03/2006 11:03:26 AM PDT by llevrok (The next greatest generation is now.)
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To: Fractal Trader

Won't work in our narrow forested canyons. Could be good on open prairies.


7 posted on 06/03/2006 11:04:23 AM PDT by marsh2
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To: Fractal Trader

That about give me an Aviowoody!


8 posted on 06/03/2006 11:05:32 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: Fractal Trader

Didn't the Russkies have a ready-to-go supertanker a few years back? Their really big bird, that was capable of carrying even more water than this 747, with proven experience fighting fires in Europe.

But the National Forest Service kept it out of the US because the current contract holders for fire fighting tanker services did not want the competition. And Umpteen-Diddly Millions of acres were lost.

Frankly, the Russian design sounded more suitable, because it was based on a military transport aircraft that is designed to operate out of rough and short fields and for low speed parachute deployment operations.


9 posted on 06/03/2006 11:09:30 AM PDT by jebeier (RICE '08)
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To: jebeier
If they used the Russian tanker, their budget would be cut. What right thinking bureaucracy would do that? A few lost acres even a few lives lost, will only justify an even larger budget.
10 posted on 06/03/2006 11:18:21 AM PDT by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: Fractal Trader; COEXERJ145; microgood; liberallarry; cmsgop; shaggy eel; RayChuang88; ...

If you want on or off my aerospace ping list, please contact me by Freep mail.

11 posted on 06/03/2006 11:22:50 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Fractal Trader

They should use it to spray soap and perfume on hippie protesters.


12 posted on 06/03/2006 11:36:46 AM PDT by rattrap
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To: jebeier
Didn't the Russkies have a ready-to-go supertanker a few years back?

Yes, it was a modified IL-76.

13 posted on 06/03/2006 11:39:06 AM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Every person has a photographic memory - but some don't have their flash card installed.)
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To: rattrap

And lice medicine.


14 posted on 06/03/2006 11:49:56 AM PDT by Kenny Bunkport (As the Democrat Party becomes more evil, the GOP becomes more stupid. What's a voter to do?)
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To: Kenny Bunkport

With the aging and deminished fleet; it's cetainly worth a try. I say go for it.


Richard


15 posted on 06/03/2006 11:54:33 AM PDT by oldcapecodder
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To: bnelson44
Probably too big and fast to be of any real use.

Ignorance is bliss.


16 posted on 06/03/2006 12:41:17 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: A.A. Cunningham
Look where it is spraying.

Might be OK in the prairie. In our mountains, I don't know.

Also where would it refuel?
17 posted on 06/03/2006 12:58:55 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: Fractal Trader

Erickson Air-Crane S-64E. One can drop up to 30,000 gallons per hour. Multiply that by three or four and you're talking about some serious fire fighting capacity.

18 posted on 06/03/2006 1:15:51 PM PDT by concentric circles
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To: Paleo Conservative
Interesting, thanks. Never could figure out how they could put out any fires with those other puny planes.
19 posted on 06/03/2006 1:38:32 PM PDT by phantomworker (And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, will keep your hearts and your minds...)
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To: llevrok

That's General "Buck" Turgidson
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057012/

(just had to double-check my feeble memory)


20 posted on 06/03/2006 1:49:10 PM PDT by VOA
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