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"The problem is in the word "we." Certain business interests in the US have have subverted the enforcement of law by buying our politicians. In our CA Central Coast valley those business interests that use illegals for cheap labor are largely foreign owned--Japan, Holland, etc."

Us here, are not the problem. But WE the people are.
WE let this problem as Americans get out of control.
Can we honestly blame Mexico? When we never said no to them with any real meaning did we, a few hundred border partrol and checkpoints was it. We really said yes with every single other form of communication. YES work for us, YES we wont throw you out, YES get healthcare, YES have your kids here, YES we will educate them, YES YES YES.
And with news from the Busby campaign today, YES participate in our elections.

WE did this to ourselves.
And we cant just blame liberalism this time either.

But most of us are not supremely dishonest business owners. We did not anticipate the extent of the underhanded practices of American businesses, who will even pay the coyotes to bring the illegals into the U.S.

I say, after sealing the border, nail the employers who hire and have hired illegals and nail them hard. I won't take responsibility for their law-breaking ways, but I would like to see them punished.

Also, 12 years ago in California we the people passed a piece of legislation called Prop. 187. MALDEF filed suit against and a liberal judge ruled in their favor; however, the state's appeal had a good chance of winning but was left to linger until DUMBDonk Gray Davis became Governor and dropped the appeal.

Here is the story as told by California Coalition for Immigration Reform: History of Proposition 187

Similarly, our government is caving in to lawsuits and threats of lawsuits by the ACLU re the border, and Mexico's threats of resorting to "international law." In that case, blame spineless politicians.

We the people, instead of being to blame, are truly the court of last resort and the only hope for resolving the illegal INVASION.

WE did this to ourselves.

Just like we brought on 9/11? Bullspit. Mexico encourages the smuggling of drugs, weapons, currency, and humans. Look at the resounding failure of the WOD. You going to blame that on America too? It is not becoming to the conservative cause to blame America first. It comes off as whiney and candy@ssed to be afraid that the court of world opinion would condemn us for a well deserved smackdown of the Mexican government. Starting with sanctions to appease the sissies that would cry about the unfair treatment of poor little Mexico. They send their criminals here so that they do not prey on the Mexican populace. Some friendly neighbor. I hold no animosity for the Mexican people. I despise their corrupt government.

Us here, are not the problem. But WE the people are. WE let this problem as Americans get out of control. Can we honestly blame Mexico? When we never said no to them with any real meaning did we, a few hundred border partrol and checkpoints was it. We really said yes with every single other form of communication. YES work for us, YES we wont throw you out, YES get healthcare, YES have your kids here, YES we will educate them, YES YES YES. And with news from the Busby campaign today, YES participate in our elections.

WE voted overwhelmingly for initiatives NOT to provide social services for illegals, but the people's will was subverted by corrupt politicians and courts. Bush and international business have overruled the will of we the people..

WE did not tell the border patrol and the INS to back off, it was corrupt politicians.

Is it our fault that our politicians are corrupt? Well yes, we must kick them out. But we do not have to abide the fruit of their crimes.