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Snow: Flow of illegals not an 'invasion'
WorldNetDaily ^ | June 2, 2006 | Les Kinsolving

Posted on 06/02/2006 4:51:13 PM PDT by AmericaOne

Snow: Flow of illegals not an 'invasion'

Spokesman says Article 4 of Constitution doesn't apply to border issue

Saying Mexico is "not the enemy," presidential press secretary Tony Snow today rejected the characterization of the constant flow of illegal aliens over the U.S. border as an "invasion."

At today's White House press briefing, WND asked the spokesman: "Article 4, Section 4 of the Constitution says, 'The United States shall guarantee to every state in the Union a republican form of government and shall protect each of them from foreign invasion.' My question is, does the president believe this foreign invasion means only armed invasion, or doesn't this also mean the invasion of millions of illegal immigrants?"

Responded Snow: "I think what you are doing is you're attaching a martial connotation to something that does not have martial consequences. …

"What the president has said – if you were talking about an invasion, he's made it clear that Mexico is not the enemy."

WND also asked Snow about a lawsuit by war veteran Sgt. Peter Damon, who lost both of his arms in Iraq. Damon has sued Michael Moore for using clips without his permission in "Fahrenheit 9/11" to give the false impression that he opposed the war.

"I didn't lose my arms over there to come back and be used as ammunition against my commander in chief," Damon was quoted as saying.

"If he is asked," queried WND, "will this commander in chief be willing to testify in court on behalf of this double amputee sergeant?"

Snow called it a "hypothetical question"

"Please don't put me in the position of trying to answer to a lawsuit between somebody who served his country and Michael Moore," Snow said. "We'll let them deal with it."


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To: plain talk
I believe you to be technically incorrect.
If I, a country, print a booklet telling my citizens how to go into a nation illegally, I, that nation, have acted in an unlawful manner, according to international law. Technically, I, that country, have perpetrated an act of war against another nation.
121 posted on 06/02/2006 6:31:27 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Make them legal one more time. Yes this plan will work. <sarcasm>)
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To: AmericaOne

Tony is evading the invasion.


122 posted on 06/02/2006 6:32:15 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: beaversmom

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123 posted on 06/02/2006 6:32:41 PM PDT by Pelham (McGuestWorkerProgram- Soon to serve over 1 billion Americans)
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To: AmericaOne
I always knew Tony would fit right in with the Bush Administration. Personally I wish him nothing but good things, but professionally he's shoveling the manure just like the rest of the talking heads. The problem is that this talking head speaks for the Presidente.
124 posted on 06/02/2006 6:42:02 PM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: plain talk
Snow is technically right. It is NOT an invasion by a government of another country and that's what the framers were talking about.

In addition to having a foreign government aiding and encouraging their own citizens to invade our country and actively encourage their own citizens to undermine our laws, culture and government, there are also nightly incursions into United States territory by heavily armed soldiers of the Mexican Army, to provide escort for drug runners and illegals. There have been shootouts between them and our border patrol and other law enforcement. There are also a whole lot of other, armed illegals that come across our borders nightly that aren't here looking for a job!

If the framers of the Constitution were alive today to see what is going on with the illegals, they would call this an invasion.

126 posted on 06/02/2006 6:43:07 PM PDT by AmericaOne (Borders, Language and Culture - You Don't Have These, You Don't Have A Country)
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To: no-to-illegals

Unfortunately my tagline is all too true. If illegals aren't deported and the guest worker plan permanently rejected you will see it first hand. I've lived at ground zero of the 'invasion' and I've seen how fast you can lose entire cities. It isn't going to stop at California's borders, it's coming to every state sooner than you can imagine.


127 posted on 06/02/2006 6:44:37 PM PDT by Pelham (McGuestWorkerProgram- Soon to serve over 1 billion Americans)
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To: EricOF
*ss hole.

Who is that directed at?

128 posted on 06/02/2006 6:45:04 PM PDT by AmericaOne (Borders, Language and Culture - You Don't Have These, You Don't Have A Country)
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To: AmericaOne
I believe our founders would call it an act of war by Mexico, IMHO. Isn't it amazing how many people want to give away our nation to people who have no right to be in our nation?
129 posted on 06/02/2006 6:46:48 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Make them legal one more time. Yes this plan will work. <sarcasm>)
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To: AmericaOne

Here's the deal - we want a libertarian immigration policy, we need a libertarian country. You want socialism, crack out the guns and build the walls.


130 posted on 06/02/2006 6:46:48 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Tony Snow

TONY, TONY, TONY.

*sigh*


131 posted on 06/02/2006 6:47:35 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (My donation to the GOP went here instead: http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/index.php)
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To: Pelham

No doubt from me, of the words you have typed. We still have a chance but that chance is slipping away quickly.


132 posted on 06/02/2006 6:48:27 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Make them legal one more time. Yes this plan will work. <sarcasm>)
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To: Palladin
Sorry to say this but Tony Snow has become a puppet and is fast losing his conservative credentials.

Roger that.

133 posted on 06/02/2006 6:48:57 PM PDT by Noumenon (Yesterday's Communist sympathizers are today's terrorist sympathizers)
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To: AmericaOne

If you listen carefuly, you can hear the sound of the formerly straight-talking Tony Snow losing his last bit of credibility.


134 posted on 06/02/2006 6:51:52 PM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU HAVE NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT. Actually, you lack even a legitimate excuse.)
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To: AmericaOne
Before the invaders hired a public relations firm to tell them they were dumbasses for waving the Mexican flag, we all saw millions of them in the street showing their true hearts. They declared boldly that they would take back Azatland for Mother Mexico. They demonstrated the US flag up-side-down, referring to a nation in distress.

Once they consulted the liberal republicans and dems in congress who told them "tone it down a little, we are trying to keep the idiots who really love America in the dark from knowing the truth, the invaders, only then, backed off, for appearance sake only.

Tony Snow is wrong and he is schilling for those who seek to destroy our way of life. Snow should at least have the minerals to say, "Americans, we don't give a damn what you think, this is what the leadership wants, and to hell with the rest of you." I would resent it, but I would respect him for telling us the damn true nature of his (and the Administration's heart). If Tony didn't agree with these notions, he should resign on principle. But he obviously agrees.

What flagrant disregard for the will of the people, especially the will of the people who put your ass in office. It is disgusting and dangerous. There are a lot of people out here who are fed up to their eyeballs with this invasion.

Where are the schills for the Adminstration answering questions, like....in this day and age of Social Security going bankrupt, how will the new SS recepients not bankrupt a failing system even faster than it is going now. How will this keep a health care delivery system from imploding faster than it is now. How will government education keep from floundering more profoundly than it is now with a new and burdonson load of non-English speaking people to be educated. I get the feeling that this is their desired objective, but to what end I cannot fathom would work to their benefit. Where is the debate by the bastards who are foistering this over on a mostly unsuspecting public. Where is Bush? Where is he at a lectern educating the voting public as to why this is the right thing to do. He is AWOL, because he knows Americans do not want the country to be given away for votes. I had rather keep my country and loose some elections and hold to some principles than what the Adminstration is doing along with a complicitous senate and left wing. He is doing this because he wants to do this, but he does not give a reasoned analysis to us. Convince me and I will go with you. But don't expect to have me check my mind and my childrens future at the door. If it were just me and my wife, I would not be so exercised, but I have three children that he wants to destroy their futures for the sake of a G*ddamn election. This is wrong, dead wrong!

135 posted on 06/02/2006 6:52:26 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: Arizona Carolyn; Smartass; Czar; Borax Queen; janetgreen

Tony Snow's a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

Of course he's in favor of what this Administration is doing. It's exactly what CFR wants: open borders, "orderly flow of migrants" (that's doublespeak for illegals to invade America and taking away from America's sovereignty).


136 posted on 06/02/2006 7:02:20 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: AmericaOne

Tony Snow is a weenie. Bush just picked him because he was so -----bland, mainstream, noncontroversial. Soothing the feathers of the conservative out here in the hinter lands. (all of us uninformed unwashed masses.) BAAAAAAAh. No self respecting Texan gives a hoot about such a wimp. Makes my stomach turn. Keep talking, November '06 will be a bloodbath for the GOP. Can't wait to help with that and I'm a dyed and dipped Republican since Reagan.


137 posted on 06/02/2006 7:13:07 PM PDT by texaslil (and)
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To: AmericaOne
Responded Snow: "I think what you are doing is you're attaching a martial connotation to something that does not have martial consequences.

Way to kill a two bit radio and book writing career, Snow your mind has no material connotation and the lose of it no material consequences.

138 posted on 06/02/2006 7:14:00 PM PDT by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: cripplecreek
According to the violent crimes institute, they estimate 240,000 illegal alien sex offenders in the country now with an average of 4 victims each. They also estimate almost 100 more arriving each day.

Now if you would include the number of american's killed by illegal aliens.

139 posted on 06/02/2006 7:16:50 PM PDT by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: AmericaOne

You are absolutely right. When the Mexican government made a policy decision to aid and abet illegal immigration, it became an invasion.


140 posted on 06/02/2006 7:19:48 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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