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Native protest imperils 'rule of law' (Canada: about time Courts got fed up!)
National Post - Canada ^ | Friday, June 02, 2006 | Adrian Humphreys

Posted on 06/02/2006 11:18:09 AM PDT by GMMAC

Native protest imperils 'rule of law'
hearing: Lawyer calls for use of force in Ontario land dispute

Adrian Humphreys

National Post
Friday, June 02, 2006


CAYUGA, Ont. - A judge, fearing that native blockades were destroying the "rule of law" in his community, forced nearly a dozen lawyers into his rural Ontario courthouse yesterday for a highly unusual court hearing.

As more than a dozen Ontario Provincial Police officers ringed the historic courthouse in Cayuga, about an hour's drive southwest of Hamilton, almost as many lawyers gathered inside before Justice T. David Marshall, the senior Ontario Superior Court judge for the area, to answer pointed questions on why native protests and blockades remained despite court orders and injunctions.

Highlighting the deep divide on the issue, amid the pleas of patience and peace, Judge Marshall heard: that negotiating with natives was like trying to appease Adolf Hitler prior to the Second World War; a suggestion that the protesters were dangerously close to being terrorists; and a call to "shoot the media."

The public peace has been deteriorating in nearby Caledonia since a small group of native protesters from the Six Nations reserve occupied a dusty subdivision construction project in late February, claiming the land rightfully belonged to them. Two court injunctions ordering protesters off the property were ignored.

After a dawn raid by the OPP on April 20 to arrest those still at the site, angry native protesters descended by the hundreds to retake the land. Other protesters then blocked a rail line, main streets and a bridge in support. Caledonia residents have since held counter protests, attracting hundreds who called on the government to end the blockades.

Violence has been simmering.

An OPP officer has been hit in the head by a bag of rocks.

A bridge was burnt down. A road was torn up by a backhoe, and the electrical system was brought down by a series of fires.

Police are investigating 25 criminal charges from the dispute, court heard, including assault on police, kidnapping, theft, arson and mischief endangering life.

"The rule of law has been suspended, to some degree," said Judge Marshall in explaining why he took the unusual step of ordering all parties involved in the disputes to his courtroom to explain the failures and search for solutions.

"I am seeking your assistance -- I mean that in the most sincere way -- to help the court; to help the community."

And from the lawyers he heard some of the passions involved.

Edward McCarthy, a lawyer representing the Haldimand Law Association, expressed the frustration of the Caledonia residents. He said the native protests "almost seem" to fall under the government's definition of a terrorist act and then compared negotiations to the failed policy of allowing Hitler to expand Nazi Germany by just a little to avert a war.

"This may seem like a harsh thing to say and it may involve a use of force, but at some point there needs to be a stand for the rule of law," Mr. McCarthy said, adding the protests had to end, "forthwith, by force if necessary."

His remarks drew a rebuke from Denise Dwyer, a lawyer representing the OPP, who called them "fighting words."

She was joined in objecting to Mr. McCarthy's stance by Darrell Doxtdator, a lawyer who is the senior political advisor to the Chief of the Six Nations Council. He angrily told off Mr. McCarthy, but then turned his ire toward reporters. "To paraphrase Shakespeare, 'Shoot the media,' " he said.

Others, however, said there was a need to quell inflammatory statements and work toward a negotiated settlement.

Owen Young, a lawyer for the Attorney-General of Ontario, suggested the court orders should not be acted upon too readily while negotiations appear to be making progress.

He said "rule of law" was not only reflected in court orders but in maintaining public peace and accommodating customary law of the native people.

Much frustration was directed toward Jim Prentice, the federal Minister responsible for Indian Affairs.

In the end, Judge Marshall ordered all parties to return to his court on June 16 and issued an "invitation" for Mr. Prentice and the federal government to attend.

Meanwhile, fears were expressed that other native protests might be brewing.

"Yesterday, native protesters set up an information picket at the Brantford Casino claiming the site as theirs," said Bob Runciman, provincial Conservative justice critic, in the Ontario legislature. "As you may know, the first step towards the Caledonia land occupation, now in its 94th day, was a similar information picket."

"As in Caledonia, we will look at the situation," replied Gerry Phillips, Minister of Government Services.

© National Post 2006


TOPICS: Canada; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aboriginals; canada; domesticterrorism; indians; lawandorder; ruleoflaw; thugs
"Owen Young, a lawyer for the Attorney-General of Ontario, suggested the court orders should not be acted upon too readily while negotiations appear to be making progress."

Typical of the habitual limp-wristed pandering by Ontario's current & appalling McGuinty Liberal government to every imaginable special interest group at the majority of citizens' expense!

As it's continual, fed-up voters won't forget and, in now barely a year, ... it's b'bye, Liberal slimeballs !!!

1 posted on 06/02/2006 11:18:13 AM PDT by GMMAC
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To: GMMAC

I'd like to see the tribes go after the Quebecois.


2 posted on 06/02/2006 11:23:51 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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3 posted on 06/02/2006 11:24:38 AM PDT by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: GMMAC

So, is it Native land or no?


4 posted on 06/02/2006 11:32:36 AM PDT by Owl558 (Pardon my spelling)
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To: Aquinasfan
"I'd like to see the tribes go after the Quebecois."

Precisely why virtually all Indians up here are staunch federalists:
Any discussion as to Native land claims with a separate Quebec - although the French are liberal about most everything else - would be over & decided against them literally at the speed of light !!!
(Average Frenchman: "maudit Savages!")
5 posted on 06/02/2006 11:38:38 AM PDT by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: GMMAC
although the French are liberal about most everything else - would be over & decided against them literally at the speed of light

You have to respect their hypocrisy. In a way...

6 posted on 06/02/2006 11:45:26 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: GMMAC
Mr. McCarthy said, adding the protests had to end, "forthwith, by force if necessary."

His remarks drew a rebuke from Denise Dwyer, a lawyer representing the OPP, who called them "fighting words."


So the Ontario Provincial Police come down on the side of scofflaws now?  Give it up. Give it up.
7 posted on 06/02/2006 11:52:16 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: Owl558

That hasn't been determined. The land is part of a large tract originally granted to the Six Nations by the Crown to reward their siding with the British during the American War of Independence. Over the years the original parcel was eroded by conflicting grants, questionable sales and squatters' rights.


8 posted on 06/02/2006 11:53:24 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Yay! It's Riding Season!)
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To: Owl558
"So, is it Native land or no? "

Their claim is 'questionable' at best, dates back the better part of 200 years but was only very recently abruptly revived.

It's now before the Courts which have repeatedly told them to cease & desist in their de facto terrorism until a decision is duly rendered.

They've thoroughly & selfishly disrupted the nearby economy &, aside from their repeated acts of 'vandalism', engaged in virtually every imaginable form of thuggery - which, of course, goes largely unreported by the msm - against non-Native local residents.

IMHO, no other group in society would ever have been permitted to get away with anything even remotely like this level of gross misconduct & open contempt for lawful Court Orders ... particularly for what's now been 4 long months !!!
9 posted on 06/02/2006 11:57:16 AM PDT by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: gcruse
"... Denise Dwyer, a lawyer representing the OPP ..."

Read: not rank and file coppers but, yet another politically correct legal hack brought in to prattle the views of the morally bankrupt McGuinty Liberal provincial government.

IMHO, all governments: providing jobs for the dregs of the legal profession who, for obvious reasons, can't find work in the private sector.
10 posted on 06/02/2006 12:07:18 PM PDT by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: GMMAC

It's easy for a small group of violent crazies to tie-up any town in Canada. All law-abiding Canadians have been disarmed. If this crap were pulled here it would be met by citizens who could defend themselves.


11 posted on 06/02/2006 12:47:26 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice
As but one example, the siege at Wounded Knee in 1973 went on for 71 days so, I don't think your point is all that well taken.

Local non-Natives have been giving tit-for-tat to some degree and, probably accurately, have complained about one-sided enforcement of laws by Police.

There are also a lot of simply 'apples to oranges' differences between Canada & the U.S. in terms of both respective governmental jurisdictions/powers and especially that our federal government much more lavishly funds Indians in general than does yours giving them more legal & other resources to use, sometimes maliciously, against the general public. However, ever-increasing Indian casino revenues Stateside may be rapidly balancing this difference out.

Plus, for better or worse, our two nations' historical dealings with Natives have been very different. It could be argued that Canada generally not having been as tough with them in the past led directly to many having such an obvious sense of undue entitlement today.
On the other hand, with more land area & less than 1/10 of America's population, it's not as if Native & non-Native geographical proximity to each other was ever as much of a compelling reason to get along with each other either.
12 posted on 06/02/2006 1:45:56 PM PDT by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: GMMAC

"They've thoroughly & selfishly disrupted the nearby economy &, aside from their repeated acts of 'vandalism', engaged in virtually every imaginable form of thuggery"

Sounds like these folks will accept only one outcome regardless of the law. If this is so and the ruling goes against them, it will get worse.


13 posted on 06/02/2006 1:57:25 PM PDT by Owl558 (Pardon my spelling)
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To: Owl558
BINGO !!!

I posted another article on this appalling stand-off about 10 days ago here and added a subsequent comment as #13.

I'd also sent the article out to my local conservative e-list and this is a copy of a response received back from the President of the Conservative Party Association to which I belong who has directly impacted family in the area.

I know this guy well: he's a respected & successful businessman, not particularly to the ideological right of the Party and, in general, not someone given to either exaggerations or rash statements.

Give a look - it's interesting background.
14 posted on 06/02/2006 2:48:09 PM PDT by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: GMMAC

Sounds like two-tier equality. And this is not to say that the outcome should be X or Y. I really don't know. The larger issue here is rule of law. Either EVERYONE is covered equally (and respects the court's injunction) or it is a tyranny disguised as equality.

I feel for your friend who probably feels like he has nowhere to turn.


15 posted on 06/02/2006 4:32:32 PM PDT by Owl558 (Pardon my spelling)
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To: GMMAC

That is a very flattering photograph of Pail Martin. He looks like he has just come off a park bench.


16 posted on 06/02/2006 11:29:42 PM PDT by Fair Go
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To: pabianice

Civil war. Wait till it starts to happen in Mexifornia.


17 posted on 06/02/2006 11:34:47 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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