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Haditha Reporter Was Jailed By US, Shares Name With Source
Sweetness & Light ^ | June 1, 2006 | N/A

Posted on 06/01/2006 3:24:18 PM PDT by Sam Hill

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To: Sam Hill
Maj. Tahseen Ali Al Mashhadani, resides in Al `Amiriya.

This is interesting, His name shows up in The Structure of the Mukhabarat (Iraqi Intelligence Service - IIS)

61 posted on 06/01/2006 5:10:59 PM PDT by usmcobra (A single rogue Marine, yeah that can happen, but a whole Unit, only a liberal would believe that BS)
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To: Marine_Uncle
This has been most Freepers whole point all along. Let us wait and see. It IS possible some Marine lost it. What amaze me is how FEW ever do! It is a statement of their incredibly professionalism that they so rarely do lose it. That said, it is possible this is a staged atrocity. Terrorists have done these sorts of PR stunts before. I simply object to this rush to condem the Marines without even hearing anything but the accusations.

Most of us were not born or too young to do anything about how they treated the 'Nam vets.

We are not too little this time. If this turns out to be terrorist propaganda, the Dems will be held accountable for this at the ballot box. They are tapping into a seam of rage that has festered in the Hearts of millions of Americans for 35 years. They have no idea how bad this may end up hurting them.

62 posted on 06/01/2006 5:14:13 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (I would rather be an Iraqi in a Hidatha guarded by Marines, then a subject of Al-Qeda anywhere.)
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To: usmcobra; Coop; DevSix

http://www.totse.com/en/politics/foreign_military_intelligence_agencies/iraqiis.html

GREAT fine. Wonder though, is is the same guy? Sure looks like a Saddamite.


63 posted on 06/01/2006 5:16:15 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (I would rather be an Iraqi in a Hidatha guarded by Marines, then a subject of Al-Qeda anywhere.)
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To: Sam Hill

Since we know that the reporter is an insurgent, and we know the bodies had been disturbed, there is little reliable physical evidence to back up the insurgents' story. People shot during a battle does not equal execution. People killed in a bomb blast can be shot again after death to create false evidence of an execution.

In an insurgent stronghold, in an event reported by insurgents, with insurgents and their kin as the only witnesses, I would tend to give every benefit of the doubt to the marines.

When insurgents hide among civilians and even family members, it is inevitable that non-combatants will be killed. It is so inevitable that, while any normal human will regret the tragic loss of their lives, it is not even worth an apology.


64 posted on 06/01/2006 5:18:28 PM PDT by marron
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To: usmcobra

I guess that could be a relation.

Al-Mashhadani seems to be a fairly common SUNNI name in that region.


65 posted on 06/01/2006 5:26:01 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: marron

It all fun and games for the Jihadies util the Marines waste their whole family in the firefight. Even the kids "knew about the bomb" according to one video tape of "survivors" braodcast by CNN. So Iraqis don't want your women and children killed in firefights, don't hide behind them to attack us.


66 posted on 06/01/2006 5:29:11 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (I would rather be an Iraqi in a Hidatha guarded by Marines, then a subject of Al-Qeda anywhere.)
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To: Sam Hill
Odd that the his organization also shares the same name as one of Saddam's pet Republican Guard outfits. How did he have the money and authority to set up this "Iraqi Civil Rights Group" unless of course he was been a big shot under Saddam. I suspect it is the same guy or a close relative.
67 posted on 06/01/2006 5:31:29 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (I would rather be an Iraqi in a Hidatha guarded by Marines, then a subject of Al-Qeda anywhere.)
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To: Sam Hill

It could be the same man as well he is the right age to be a Major, moves freely about, and is in contact with insurgents.

I mean if anyone would be capable of staging a massacre it would be a member of the Mukhabarat.


68 posted on 06/01/2006 5:36:05 PM PDT by usmcobra (A single rogue Marine, yeah that can happen, but a whole Unit, only a liberal would believe that BS)
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To: usmcobra

If he changed his name. Which I guess is possible.

But the reporter's full name is said to be Ali Omar Abrahem al-Mashhadani.


69 posted on 06/01/2006 5:39:16 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: pissant; Sam Hill

Thanks for the ping, Pissant.

Great job, Sam Hill!

In addition.....the doctor who verified that all victims were shot in the head and chest, had also been previously arrested.

This is same doctor (Walid al-Obeidi) who was ok with al Qaida setting up base camp AT the hospital in Haditha.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Walid+Al-Obeidi&btnG=Google+Search

Also, a question...


Does it make sense that ALL the victims had "bullet wounds to the head and chest" according to the doc, but the 10 year old survivor Eman, had shrapnel wounds on her left thigh?


70 posted on 06/01/2006 5:39:22 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: usmcobra
His name shows up in The Structure of the Mukhabarat

Wow. Great catch. I am assuming our guys have found this out already, but if not, I hope they find it out here. I should think that would disqualify any statement he might make.

71 posted on 06/01/2006 5:40:43 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius

It's not the same name.

Again, al-Al-Mashhadani seems to be a fairly common Sunni name in the region. (It's probably based on a tribe or town.)

But as noted, he could be a relative.


72 posted on 06/01/2006 5:45:18 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Sam Hill
Hmmmm....how does Mashdahani manage to keep his head while running around the insurgent strongholds ?

could it be that his head is not in danger of detachment ?

could Ali be "one of them" ?

very suspicious indeed

73 posted on 06/01/2006 5:45:20 PM PDT by KTM rider
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To: Velveeta

Wow, that is a great catch!

Check this out from the terrorist lovers at Uruknet:

Iraqi Doctors Beaten and Arrested in Haditha Hospital :: from www.uruknet.info :: news from occupied Iraq - ch

Iraqi Doctors Beaten and Arrested in Haditha Hospital
Sabah Ali, BRussells Tribunal

October 30, 2005

Dr. Walid Al-Obeidi, the director of Haditha General Hospital and Dr. Jamil Abdul Jabbar, the only surgeon in the Haditha area were arrested for a week, very badly beaten and threatened to face the same treatment in the future by the American troops.

Dr.Walid said "they arrested me in my house in front of my family, covered my eyes, and tied my hands to the back on Oct 5 2005 morning, during the last attack on Haditha (360 kilometers west of Baghdad). They occupied the hospital for 8 days and made it their office. The first day they beat me on my eyes, nose, back, hands, legs... My face was covered with blood .When they removed the tie I could not see. They investigated me until the afternoon. I realized later that I was arrested in the hospital store. Then they tied my hands to the front, and left me for two days. I was moved then to the pharmacy department. They accused me of treating terrorists, and asked for their names...

http://www.uruknet.info/?p=17363&colonna=&bh=0&l=e

This doctor definitely hates the US.

Great catch!


74 posted on 06/01/2006 5:48:44 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Velveeta

This case is falling apart as we speak. And it will take the MSM months to ever admit it, if ever.


75 posted on 06/01/2006 5:48:56 PM PDT by pissant
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

I admire you for greeting our soldiers. Thank you for doing such good work. I am livid about this Haditha thing.
I want our leaders with a spine to start speaking out.


76 posted on 06/01/2006 5:58:57 PM PDT by 2rightsleftcoast
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To: MNJohnnie
"They are tapping into a seam of rage that has festered in the Hearts of millions of Americans for 35 years. They have no idea how bad this may end up hurting them."
You got that right. Many an honorable vet who is married, has kids, family, will pass on just what the hell is going on, hopefully. This is truly like the Wally Cronkite shit brain era. I remember the portrayal of My Lai. And it is a repeat.
Yes it is possible some Marine lost it. But the more we are seeing, it may not have been as is being portrayed. To damn many conflicting versions.
I sense in my bones this was a carefully contrived PR stunt by the ali babba. And that so called A RAB reporter?
He has it in for the Marines. I have no doubt about that.
Sadly as usual the main damage is done. The L/MSM will not cover any details if it turns out only some minor infractions where commited by our Marines, and no one gets court martialed. The press will just pass on the issue, it will have been "old news".
77 posted on 06/01/2006 5:59:32 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Sam Hill
He's a cause celebre for every left wing nutjob liberal journalism group on the web.

Ibrahim is another spelling of Abrahem.

But check this out The last excutive director of The Mukhabarat was Khudayr Isma’il Ibrahim Al Mashhadani. A father or Uncle maybe?
78 posted on 06/01/2006 5:59:32 PM PDT by usmcobra (A single rogue Marine, yeah that can happen, but a whole Unit, only a liberal would believe that BS)
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To: cardinal4

Their lips are moving. You got that right.
Did you see the young girl saying she wants the soldiers
TORTURED and killed. Nothing about the terrorists doing this crap every day. Move along nothing to see here.
Tell the women and children to leave if they wish and then bomb the whole place.


79 posted on 06/01/2006 6:01:38 PM PDT by 2rightsleftcoast
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To: jwalsh07

They did know about the IED. I was watching CNN yesterday and the interpreter said the little girls story changed after the third telling. She said, I knew the bomb would be going off so I covered my ears"!!!!! Why isn't this being talked about. They are lying. The terrorists killed those people and the citizens are lying to cover for them. IMHO.


80 posted on 06/01/2006 6:03:55 PM PDT by 2rightsleftcoast
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