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Southern border blurs for global trade
WorldNetDaily ^ | June 1, 2006 | JEROME R. CORSI

Posted on 06/01/2006 7:17:33 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer

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To: hedgetrimmer
Who's paying for this thing, which will primarily benefit the Import Lobby?

The taxpayer?

21 posted on 06/01/2006 9:39:40 AM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Do you think this is why they are so jumpy in congress? Mistaking a nail gun for gunfire?

Is that what the ruckus in the Capitol Bldg was all about?! LOL!

I guess I am not surprised. Yes. I bet they are getting jumpy.

They do remember Thomas Jefferson's rather blood curdling populist pronouncment,

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

The full quote gives some context to his point, which he makes in very blunt terms, speaking of Shay's Rebellion, and noting that its recurrence in our republic would likely be relatively infrequent "in a century or two" and modest in scope " a few lives ". But necessary as a kind of natural component for the maintenance of liberty.

"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion [Shays's Rebellion]. The people cannot be all, and always, well-informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. We have had thirteen States independent for eleven years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century and a half for each State. What country ever before existed a century and a half without a rebellion. And what country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that the people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms! The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."

Letter from T. Jefferson to Col. William S. Smith, Paris, November 13, 1787


22 posted on 06/01/2006 9:57:55 AM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: trooprally

FReepmail to ya!


23 posted on 06/01/2006 11:24:14 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! I *LOVE* my attitude problem. Beware the Enemedia!)
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To: Paul Ross
And what country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that the people preserve the spirit of resistance?

Its time and then some.
24 posted on 06/01/2006 11:45:12 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Well, as you can see, Thomas Jefferson thought we should pray God that it not be over 20 years for a show of force by the citizenry.

Hence the discomfort with which he is still held by some...

25 posted on 06/01/2006 12:46:44 PM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: hedgetrimmer; nicmarlo
"Mr Corsi continues his extremely well researched series of articles on the death of American sovereignty and constitutional government."

Yes, he does. And I certainly haven't seen much in the way of factual counter arguments that hold water.

26 posted on 06/01/2006 6:01:38 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: hedgetrimmer; Czar
I certainly haven't seen much in the way of factual counter arguments that hold water.

The NAFTA Super Corridor plan is ultimately to reduce the transportation costs of using cheap labor in China, South Korea and Indonesia to produce goods for American markets. Bypassing West Coast ports in the U.S. means bypassing U.S. union wages. Mexican port and rail transport are expected to keep the shipping costs low. Also, allowing free access to the U.S. to Mexican trucks means that the containers can be moved through the U.S. by Mexican nationals, again bypassing Teamster union wages and benefits typically paid U.S. truck drivers.

* * *
I continue to argue that a "follow the money" strategy must be utilized to understand why President Bush has refused to close our border with Mexico, pushing instead for "comprehensive immigration reform" legislation that would allow the vast majority of illegal immigrants now in the U.S. to remain under a "guest worker" or "pathway to citizenship" provision. The underlying agenda of the Bush administration seems to be to create a NAFTA-plus environment in which workers, trade and capital will be allowed to flow unimpeded within the trilateral orth American community consisting of the United States, Canada and Mexico.

What's a valid and reasonable explanation as to why "NASCO has received $2.5 million in earmarks from the U.S. Department of Transportation" if this isn't planned? I'd like someone to provide a reasonable argument to me that can even attempt to suggest that Americans will have ANY decent jobs left after all these PLANS comes to fruition?

Where are all the men (and women) (entry level on up) who are working at the ports going to be working if the port jobs are going to be shut down and outsourced to Mexico? What's going to happen to the communities which have been historically dependent upon those workers and their income? Those same cities/towns, BTW (i.e., Los Angeles/Long Beach and Seattle/Tacoma harbor areas), have been invaded by illegals, illegally taking lower-paying, non-union jobs. Where are the entry level young men (and women), and middle-aged men and women going to find new work in those towns/cities? And since manufacturing companies have already outsourced thousands of jobs to China, on top of there being less jobs created at home, the number of GOOD jobs left standing is not only dwindling, they're becoming non-existent.

27 posted on 06/01/2006 6:30:06 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

BTTT


28 posted on 06/01/2006 7:12:25 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer

>Obviously you're not a citizen who's going to get his land condemned to build this system by our government(remember, the government that is supposed to protect individual rights?)

I agree with you on that point, which is why I said 'mostly'.


29 posted on 06/01/2006 8:54:19 PM PDT by chipengineer
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To: hedgetrimmer
Thanks for the ping.

Putting aside the discussion of whether integration of three countries, one being a socialist leaning, (at least the eastern part)...and one being a corrupt oligarchy, is ultimately a good thing or a bad thing, (the EU tells us its a BAD BAD thing) or even a necessary thing to compete with China...

Who gave these elected officials the power to make these kinds of fundamental long term decisions concerning the sovereignty, political, economic, and cultural identity of the US...

WITHOUT...

First putting this plan before the people, and getting their approval?

Did we elect this plan...did we vote on it? Did I miss it during the campaign speeches of the President and a multitude of the Congressmen??

Will this plan be submitted for as vote...after the fact..when it is a formality?
30 posted on 06/01/2006 9:29:49 PM PDT by Dat Mon (Weldon, Shaffer, Philpott.......Men of Honor)
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To: Dat Mon
Who gave these elected officials the power to make these kinds of fundamental long term decisions concerning the sovereignty, political, economic, and cultural identity of the US...

No one. It can't be done constitutionally, which means the people have to have another revolution and overthrow our constitutional government to put this one in place.

That has not been done, to my knowledge.
31 posted on 06/01/2006 9:36:45 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Dat Mon
Did I miss it during the campaign speeches of the President and a multitude of the Congressmen??

You missed it because you weren't at the G8, the Doha round, the summit of the Americas or invited to be in any working groups.
32 posted on 06/01/2006 9:38:04 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: KittyKares
"Who's looking out for the average working U.S. Citizen?"

I hate to be the one to break this to ya, but no one. We don't write big enough checks or throw lavish parties.

33 posted on 06/01/2006 9:40:48 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: hedgetrimmer

I wonder how much real estate our elected officials have bought down there?


I think unless your a Mexican citizen, you can't own property in Mexico, only lease it. Of course, that would be up to the Mex Gov.


34 posted on 06/02/2006 11:38:31 AM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: nicmarlo; hedgetrimmer; Smartass
"I continue to argue that a "follow the money" strategy must be utilized to understand why President Bush has refused to close our border with Mexico, pushing instead for "comprehensive immigration reform" legislation that would allow the vast majority of illegal immigrants now in the U.S. to remain under a "guest worker" or "pathway to citizenship" provision. The underlying agenda of the Bush administration seems to be to create a NAFTA-plus environment in which workers, trade and capital will be allowed to flow unimpeded within the trilateral orth American community consisting of the United States, Canada and Mexico."

Couldn't agree more.

Outstanding post.

35 posted on 06/02/2006 1:12:26 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Czar; hedgetrimmer; Smartass; Borax Queen; janetgreen
Also, remember Kelo. Any and all homes and businesses currently located along the planned SUPERTRINATIONAL HIGHWAYS which impedes the widening plans will be taken from private citizens so there is enough land to widen and accommodate these SUPERTRINATIONAL HIGHWAYS.

The following information is just from three states: North Dakota, Oklahoma, and Texas. There are many points along this "trinational highway" going through states, towns, cities, which will negatively impact American citizens, and their homes, neighborhoods, and businesses.

Interstates 29 and 35 (Corridor 23)

ND Department of Transportation
I-29 (Fargo) Construction website

Project Timeline
Revised December 2005
2006

* Reconstruction and widening of I-29 from Main Avenue to
Cass County 20. This will include continuing three lanes
northbound from Main Avenue to 19th Ave. North, and the
reconstruction of the overpass at 19th Ave. N.

* Reconstruction of University Drive from 1st Ave. N. to 1st
Ave. S. Detour to 10th St., which will be one lane in each
direction. Reconstruction will provide three southbound
lanes in addition to left and right turn lanes.

* BNSF Railroad Shoofly (temporary bridge) bypass over N.
University Dr.

* Utility relocation and embankment construction in
preparation of new 9th St. E./57th St. & I-94 interchange in
West Fargo (tentative).

2007

* Continued reconstruction and widening of I-29 from Main
Avenue to Cass County 20. This will include continuing three
lanes southbound from 19th Ave. N. to Main Avenue.

* Reconstruction of 52nd Ave. S. between I-29 and University
Dr., including the 52nd Ave. S. interchange.

* Construction of new 9th St. E./57th St. & I-94 interchange
in West Fargo.

Planned Improvements (Oklahoma)

A reconstruction of Interstate 35 through the Ardmore, Oklahoma area in Carter County is underway. This project encompasses seven miles of Interstate 35 from seven miles north of U.S. 70 to the Murray County line (Exits 40 to 47). This portion of an overall 12-mile reconstruction is slated for completion fall of 2003. The second phase of the project will begin early 2004 and complete later in the same year.

Further north, an Interstate 35 long-term widening and reconstruction project is in its final phase. A 14-month project is underway on the 1.5-mile segment between S.E. 82nd Street and S.E. 66th Street in Oklahoma City. The new travel lanes will be created within the median of existing Interstate 35. This stretch of freeway currently accommodates 74,000 vehicles per day (vpd). The $23 million project culminates the overall Interstate 35 widening from the city of Norman northward to Interstate 40 in Oklahoma City.

Interstate 35 in Texas

Interstate 35 ties Texas from Laredo to the Oklahoma border, serving as a critical connection between the Mexican maquiladora/border region and the United States. As a result of its connections to these booming economies, Interstate 35 is overloaded on many sections. According to Brian Purcell's page, some average daily traffic counts have increased over 100% since 1985. In addition to local growth, NAFTA has put an additional strain on the corridor. As a result, officials have lobbied to have it designated as the NAFTA Superhighway to secure funding for various conventional and ITS improvements. Much of the freeway has been upgraded to a six lane facility in recent years, but bottlenecks still exist in New Braunfels and San Marcos, especially during holiday periods. Also, segments in San Antonio and Austin are suffer daily congestion as well.

For complete information and maps of all planned Texas improvements to Corridor 23, also visit Erik Slotboom's superb Texas Freeways.

36 posted on 06/02/2006 2:31:31 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

There needs to be a public education campaign on this pronto.


37 posted on 06/02/2006 2:49:24 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer

People just think their freeways are being widened for the transportation of U.S. citizenry. Little do they realize what's in store for their towns, straight through the heart of America.


38 posted on 06/02/2006 2:52:55 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: hedgetrimmer

Think about the influx of criminals, in every neighborhood along these "trinational superhighways."

Crimes committed in U.S.? No problemo. There's a fast and easy way out of town, straight down to Mexico. Your one stop fast lanes to safety from law enforcement.


39 posted on 06/02/2006 2:55:32 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

Exactly.


40 posted on 06/02/2006 2:59:00 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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