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Allstate dropping earthquake coverage in Washington (WA State - it's just the beginning....)
KING 5 News ^ | 5/31/06 | GLENN FARLEY / KING 5 News

Posted on 05/31/2006 8:09:54 PM PDT by paulat

Allstate dropping earthquake coverage in Washington

06:52 PM PDT on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 By GLENN FARLEY / KING 5 News

SEATTLE - A major Washington insurer will stop offering coverage for earthquakes in the state, a decision that will affect about 50,000 property owners.

Allstate insures nearly 250,000 homeowners in the state and about one in five has quake insurance.

The move by Allstate has state Insurance Commissioner Mike Kreidler concerned that other carrier may follow suit.

"I'm very concerned, because you never know, if Allstate is just the first of several that are going to take this step," he said.

Kreidler said Hurricane Katrina has the insurance industry re-thinking its exposure to mass disasters.

And when they start pulling away from those risks, they start evaluating other risks as well, including tsunami's and earthquakes.

So far, no other insurance companies in Washington appear to be following Allstate.

"We have not found a trend that our insurance companies have stopped writing earthquake insurance," said Darrin Sangar, with the Northwest Insurance Council.

KING

Marshel Lvie's Lakewood, Wash. home will no longer be insured against earthquakes unless he can find another carrier. Allstate Insurance has announced it will no longer write earthquake policies.

Lakewood homeowner Marshel Lvie got the news in a letter recently that his earthquake insurance rider would not be renewed. Lvie has been a customer of Allstate for 30 years.

"I count my blessings, but this did come as a little bit of a shock," Lvie said.

He said a quote from his agent to use a different company just for earthquakes would mean higher deductibles, higher premiums and possibly less coverage.

Customers like Lvie can shop around and don't have to stay with the company Allstate agents are now offering quake coverage through He has until the end of July, to find that important policy.

Allstate says customers buying new policies with another carrier could see the price of earthquake insurance go up, or in some cases even go down depending on where and how their homes were built.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: allstate; earthquake; insurance
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To: laotzu

Your argument was overwhelming with facts and persuasive rhetoric.



Not!


61 posted on 06/01/2006 5:54:47 PM PDT by Paloma_55 (Still MAD as HELL!!!)
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To: Paloma_55
Insurance works like this....You estimate the probability of a claim being filed..then you set your premiums such that you can make a profit

The State Board of Insurance dictates the rates to be charged, not the insurance companies.

Insurors do not make their profits by taking in more dollars in premium than they pay out as claims. Indeed, they frequently pay out more.

Insurors make their profits from the dividends of wisely investing those premium dollars until they are paid back out as claims.

You could always bump up the premiums of others who have less risk..

Again, it is the government that sets rates, not the insurors. They are prohibited by law from just 'bumping up the premiums'.

You don't know what insurance is, or how it works. Armed only with ignorance and anger, you insult and malign your neighbors....fellow Americans. How novel.

62 posted on 06/02/2006 6:10:28 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: laotzu

--- The State Board of Insurance dictates the rates to be charged, not the insurance companies. ----

You must be talking about a specific kind of insurance.

I recently purchased business insurance and had to undergo a rectal (figuratively speaking) exam for the underwriter to assess the exposure/risk that I would have and therefore they could set the rates.

Why would they bother to assess risk if the rates are set by the insurance commissioner?

--- You don't know what insurance is, or how it works. Armed only with ignorance and anger, you insult and malign your neighbors....fellow Americans. How novel. ----

Seems like I touched a nerve. Its not like I was insulting insurance salesmen and comparing them to used car salesmen...

I know a few insurance salesmen and I would never insult a used car dealer like that!


63 posted on 06/02/2006 1:12:47 PM PDT by Paloma_55 (Still MAD as HELL!!!)
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To: paulat

Hey, all you Wash state Freepers- welcome to Florida! haha


64 posted on 06/02/2006 1:14:06 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (My donation to the GOP went here instead: http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/index.php)
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To: Paloma_55
You must be talking about a specific kind of insurance

I am...those types written by Allstate(ie: homeowners, personal auto, small business, etc...)

Why would they bother to assess risk if the rates are set by the insurance commissioner?

A seventeen year old boy poses a much greater auto risk than a 43 year old woman driving the same car. The state sets the rate for that car, as well as the rate modifier that addresses the greater risk of the boy.

Every single word, period, comma, font size, font color, form number, rate, and premium is dictated by the state.

Every time you hear some state politician bad mouthing insurance coverages or premiums; they are knowingly blaming others for that which they have done themselves.

The politicians do this often as they know most of the sheeple will dutifully hate insurors as instructed.

65 posted on 06/03/2006 5:25:40 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Good. Insurance is the biggest scam in the world anyway.

The socialization of risk?

66 posted on 06/03/2006 5:31:18 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Paloma_55
Voluntary socialism is not necessarily a bad thing. It's when your fellow citizens impose it on you and back it up with guns that it becomes evil.

You could always bump up the premiums of others who have less risk but then, that is called socialism.

67 posted on 06/03/2006 5:38:12 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Good. Insurance is the biggest scam in the world anyway.

So you would like to get in an accident with an un-insured motorist? Or watch your un-insured home go down in flames?

I don't think you understand insurance. It is merely the transfering of risk for a fee. Granted, many insurance agents are slime. Still love the insurance agent scene in "Groundhog Day" when Bill Murray clocks the guy.

68 posted on 06/03/2006 5:46:02 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Choose life!)
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To: paulat

Allstate...only offering insurance for risks that don't exist in your area of coverage.

They don't mind making money off the premiums and subsequent investments, but they sure hate paying claims even though they are built into the rating schemes.


69 posted on 06/03/2006 6:02:49 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: laotzu

There are few industries that are more heavily regulated than insurance. But you know that.


70 posted on 06/03/2006 6:09:17 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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