[spunkets]

"In situations involving combat it matters not what the truth is. "

It always does.

"This is about winning not about being right or wrong."

Wrong. The only justification for violence is to protect life and rights. That's the diffence between us and the jihadis.

[robowombat]

If the muslim dickweeds prevail they will be right. Those who win write the history books and for that reason the victors are always right. The Chinese, pragmatic folks they are, called it the Mandate of Heaven. The deposed dynasty lost it the new dynasty had it. In war as in a gunfight there is no consolation prize, winning is all that matters. If you win all your sins are forgiven if you lose you are never right. Witness the US in Viet Nam. Doesn't matter what anyone says at the end of the day our side lost and that war will always be tagged with 'doomed effort'. If the islamos 'win' by staying on their feet until we finally virtually depart Iraq and then gin up some coalition with parts of the new Iraqi Army and topple the government then the US and all who participated in this campaign will be tagged with being part of a 'mistaken, doomed to failure operation' and all the viciousness of the terrorists will be relegated to the footnotes that nobody much reads. If we outlast the ba#tards and create an Iraqi proxy force big enough to overawe the islamos then we can claim victory and our sins will quietly be forgotten.