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Probe Finds Haditha Killings Unprovoked
Reuters ^ | 5-31-06 | Will Dunham

Posted on 05/31/2006 4:01:53 PM PDT by Types_with_Fist

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To: Jezebelle
I never said supporting the troops is hysterical. I said you are hysterical . . . and you're a loudmouth.

As for being nasty, I refer you to your post 450. You know nothing about me, don't take the time to find out, and yet you post this:

It's obvious you've never served in combat. Your treachery is disgusting, frankly, as is your worship for God Reuters.

I will stand by our troops and their explanation until the day the are convicted at a fair and just court martial, if ever one comes to pass. Until then, no mealy-mouthed panty-waists cheerleading for Reuters or a whore like Jack Murtha rate one iota of credibility on this subject.

Then, you tried to hide behind what I assume was honorable service by the men in your family.

Tsk, tsk indeed.

You're new here, and I'm hopeful your conditions of ignorance, stupidity and hysterics are temporary.

521 posted on 06/02/2006 12:57:33 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny

No hiding about it. YOU asked a question, I answered.

See how that works?

Duh.

There's nothing hysterical in what I said. In fact, you're the one going hysterical over a bunch of unfounded crap from Reuters.


522 posted on 06/02/2006 2:08:59 AM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Jezebelle

You're a fool and a phoney. Get lost.


523 posted on 06/02/2006 2:18:30 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Types_with_Fist

Sooner or later, one way or another, PC warfare kills people, unfortunately.


524 posted on 06/02/2006 2:19:14 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Stepan12; airborne
Ah, yes, Reuters:

Reuters Changes Reporter's Story to Match Liberal Spin

525 posted on 06/02/2006 2:21:54 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Types_with_Fist

Wow the MSM sure does know how to help enemy tactics... Well if it didn't happen in Haditha then it sure will happen now.... Insurgent and terrorist staged U.S. Military slaughters of Iraqi civilians... Just what the MSM wants to report and just was turns Americans sour...

This is a war and sorry to say there will be collateral damage. Let the Marines have their day in court before convicting in the media.


526 posted on 06/02/2006 4:51:08 AM PDT by tomnbeverly (Steer Clear Of Large Metropolitian Areas Because The Liberals Will Reap What They Sow.)
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To: tomnbeverly

Remember, this is the Drive-By_Media where the seriousness of the charges are more important than the facts. I would hold judgement prior to making ANY conclusions.


527 posted on 06/02/2006 6:45:45 AM PDT by teddyballgame (red man in a blue state)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
"Why should we be troubled if they're found guilty beyond reasonable doubt?"

Because this isn't traditional warfare between armies. We need the support of the Iraqi people to ultimately succeed. Incidents like this do a lot to lesson the support we can draw from them and really play into the hands of the insurgents. If these allegations are true, these marines will be partially responsible for the deaths of US soldiers and will have helped to make an already hard task that much harder.It won't matter to a lot of Iraqis who are on the fence that if true this is an isolated incident and that if true these troops don't represent our values. A few bad apples really can spoil things.
528 posted on 06/02/2006 6:56:15 AM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: LibLieSlayer

I agree 100% with you.


529 posted on 06/02/2006 7:11:55 AM PDT by jw777
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To: DrDeb

"....there is a thorough investigation going on."

That would have been plenty!


530 posted on 06/02/2006 7:13:17 AM PDT by jw777
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To: alnick

We have to wait for the facts.


That's exactly what I'm saying. Acknowleding that accusations are troubling is one thing if you're Joe Schmo. Commander in Chief. HELL NO. Be troubled in your private thoughts or memoirs.


531 posted on 06/02/2006 7:16:09 AM PDT by jw777
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To: WoofDog123

I understand that point. However, the other 129,975 troops out there still have to function and get their jobs done. Striking a political pose to be on the right side of an issue is not what is needed. We all know they will be punished if found guilty. Hell, our own soldiers are prosecuted and given trials 10x faster than the enemy! So, it's not like justice isn't expedient. What's needed is a clear understanding that Al Qaeda is manipulating the Press very effectivley, using our incessant drive for horrifying news to push this out in the open, demoralize troops, turn people against the good that's being done in IRaq/Afghanistan and abroad and implode US resolve.


532 posted on 06/02/2006 7:20:54 AM PDT by jw777
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To: SmoothTalker
It won't matter to a lot of Iraqis who are on the fence that if true this is an isolated incident and that if true these troops don't represent our values. A few bad apples really can spoil things.

True enough; but it's also worth pointing out that those same fence-sitting Iraqis can see how this is being handled vs. how Hussein's regime would have handled it, and see the difference.

533 posted on 06/02/2006 8:29:09 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: jw777

"Striking a political pose to be on the right side of an issue is not what is needed."

true, but it is one of the drawbacks of politicians.


534 posted on 06/02/2006 9:15:02 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse; SmoothTalker
True enough; but it's also worth pointing out that those same fence-sitting Iraqis can see how this is being handled vs. how Hussein's regime would have handled it, and see the difference.

Agreed, but that would mean punishing the Marines if the allegations are proven in a court-martial. There are many here who would seem to not want that under any circumstances.

For my part, while I am inclined to give the Marines the benefit of the doubt, the fact that their stories changed makes me skeptical.

535 posted on 06/02/2006 11:37:49 AM PDT by highball (Proud to announce the birth of little Highball, Junior - Feb. 7, 2006!)
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To: Types_with_Fist
uncovered death certificates showing the civilians were shot mostly in the head and chest.

Death certificate issued by whom? I wanna see the, or have US pathologists, see the bodies. I don't want a paper written by some Iraqi official from a known terrorist harboring region.

536 posted on 06/02/2006 2:15:31 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Baynative
But I'll just betcha John Kerry is having his best suit pressed for a news conference.

Yup. "In the manner of Jen-jis Con."

Two lessons that he should have learned in that hearing: 1) do not wear silli-boi bighair coif, "in the manner of" a Carnaby Street "Mod"-wannabe (I mean, if you're gonna be a wannabe, at least don't work to emulate something inherently goofy to start with!); 2) don't use words -- particularly for emphasis -- when you cannot pronounce them.

On the other hand, the man does have a measure of talent -- "in the manner of" Emmet Kelly.

537 posted on 06/02/2006 7:11:07 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: DevSix
Something else to think about...wasn't there a lag of about 3 months or so between the time of the IED going off, the ensuing firefight, the inspection by the militry that justified our guy's actions, and Time magazine coming up with a completely different version of the events, complete with previously undisclosed bullet holes?

Suppose these bullet holes in the Iraqi *victims* were effected sometime after the firefight, like, say around the time a reporter working for a faux news company known to collaborate with the terrorists came knocking with a plan to make these people some blood money?

Why else would they be undisclosed by the military investigation, then show up months later?

538 posted on 06/03/2006 12:05:00 AM PDT by 4woodenboats (The GOP was created by those opposed to Southern Democrat Plantation Slavery...)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

"Why should we be troubled if they're found guilty beyond reasonable doubt?"

I don't get it either. When a serial killer is found guilty, that doesn't affect the ENTIRE population. Nor does the handy work of a gang affect the entire population.

Bush is getting nuttier.


539 posted on 06/03/2006 6:47:10 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: 4woodenboats

Excellent supposition.


540 posted on 06/03/2006 6:49:45 AM PDT by NordP (GWB/Reagan Republican --- JACK BAUER PATRIOT)
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