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To: Badray
"You deserve NOTHING if it comes at the expense of my liberty."

Had you emphasized "my", I would agree with you. I did not consider the trading of others liberty for my own safety, as that's plain foolish.

However, if I wish to purchase high security, lock doors obsessively, drive around my block to make sure I am not followed home (I do all of those things), then that is my compromise. I pay a certain price for all of that, and I will not be lectured by philosophers that I "deserve neither safety nor liberty" for those habits.

191 posted on 06/01/2006 1:39:27 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: SteveMcKing
You completely missed the point that Ben wasn't talking about your voluntary actions, but actions in the legislatures making arbitrary regulations restricting individual Rights.

"Those who sell their liberty for security are understandable, if pitiable, creatures. Those who sell the liberty of others for wealth, power, or even a moment’s respite, deserve only the end of a rope... America’s historic misfortune is that her people have seldom been equal to the ideals upon which their nation was established." — L. Neil Smith, The American Zone (2001)

193 posted on 06/01/2006 2:05:03 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (It is not the oath that makes us believe the man, but the man the oath.- Aeschylus)
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To: SteveMcKing

What you purchase with your own funds is your business and not the same as exchanging safety for liberty, which was the inference of your post.


197 posted on 06/01/2006 3:33:15 PM PDT by Badray (CFR my ass. There's not too much money in politics. There's too much money in government hands.)
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