[holymoly]

Picture this: A homeless man comes up to you and in a demanding voice asks for money. You have no knowledge if he is armed, and he says nothing to suggest he is. Still, you feel threatened. You are carrying a pistol legally because of the state’s concealed weapon law. You pull it out and shoot him.

And of all the (10?) States which have passed "Stand your ground"/"Castle doctrine" laws, Caitlin cannot provide a single example of something like this actually happening. All she can provide us with a hypothetical scenario. rather than the criminal/attacker?

Nothing like impartial reporting, Caitlin.

[FLAMING DEATH]

So much here to comment on. Where do I begin?

"That concerns Lansing police Chief Mark Alley, who says that right could be taken too far. “What worries me are the cases that may or may not happen like a panhandler asking for money who is verbally aggressive,” Alley says. “I would certainly hate to see that end with deadly force.” "

Mark Alley: Defender of the homeless' right to be verbally aggressive!

“There’s no crisis going on,” Hamilton [of the Million Mom March] says. “Not one person has explained the need for this law other than the NRA pushing for it. Other than that, there is no basis for it.”

This from the group that screams "CRISIS" every time there's a shooting. Now, when we propose allowing the victim to defend themselves, suddenly there's no crisis. Does this mean there's no need for ANY new gun laws to be passed, hmmm?

"Opponents of the bill Police cite a litany of concerns, including...the taking of authority out of the hands of police officials and into the hands of citizens...

There...that's better...

The whole thing reads like a research paper written by a high school student. Arguments conducive to the law are presented, then "refuted" with anti-gun sentiments. Nothing about other states' success with stand-your-ground laws is mentioned. Wouldn't want too many pesky facts to get in the way of some good quality brainwashing, now would we?

Nice.

[mbynack]

I love the way they slap labels on these proposed laws that make them sound like legalized, cold blooded murder.

[michigander]

That concerns Lansing police Chief Mark Alley, who says that right could be taken too far. “What worries me are the cases that may or may not happen like a panhandler asking for money who is verbally aggressive,” Alley says. “I would certainly hate to see that end with deadly force.”

Then tell the panhandlers to mind their own damned business and leave me alone. If I want to give them money, I'll throw it at them.

[longtermmemmory]

"Stand your ground" is actually law.

This is more about TORT REFORM!

This cuts off the ambulance chasing of the gun grabbers who file suits as a means of intimidation agains gun rights. (and pursue insurance claims)

This stops the Handgun control inc by disarming them by taking away their lawyers.

THIS IS GOOD TORT REFORM.

[newguy357]

I took a concealed carry course a while ago and they gave the average legal fees we should expect if we shot someone even LEGALLY. I believe it was about $250,000. If you shoot someone you will be sued, whether or not it was justified. Something tells me people won't be shooting others just for the fun of it.

[RogueIsland]

Picture this: A homeless man comes up to you and in a demanding voice asks for money. You have no knowledge if he is armed, and he says nothing to suggest he is. Still, you feel threatened. You are carrying a pistol legally because of the state’s concealed weapon law. You pull it out and shoot him.

In which case, with or without the law, you WILL be convicted and you WILL go to jail. We have this law in Florida, as others have pointed out. Under stand-your-ground, outside the home the same criteria for justified lethal self defense still apply as they always applied. The only difference is the removal of "duty to retreat", which is a tactically and morally assinine requirement.

[Shooter 2.5]

The bill is part of a nationwide effort by the National Rifle Association to repeal similar duty to retreat laws. The NRA has already been successful with measures in Georgia, Oklahoma, Kentucky, Mississippi, South Dakota, Arizona, Kansas, Idaho, Indiana and Florida.

Thank you, NRA. I hope you're a member.