Wrong, the nature of our country is at stake. This matter has reached critical mass and must be dealt with, whatever your perception of how we got here. This is not an "immigration debate" as the liberal left would like to couch it. It is a matter of how we deal wilth illegal aliens over-running our society. As for you claim to Conservatism, if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it most likely is a duck, protestations to the contrary not withstanding. You define yourself my friend, I have nothing to do with it.
Conservatism is not synonymous with the position taken by some in the party. Conservatism is also not synonymous with the religious right positions or the positions of the social conservatives, the fiscal conservatives or the neocon hawk.
All of these things are small parts of a whole, and none of these positions are written in stone. They are simply positions and there is disagreement within the party on each and every one of them. The illegal balkanization crap hit the fan decades ago and to repeat the process endlessly makes little sense. Bush understands that, but there are always the narrow minded people who respond to intentional agitation by those who only wish to agitate with something we call agitprop.
What we try to do is envision a big picture where everyone has a opportunity to bring their positions to the forefront and achieve some success in convincing the others. We try to stay away from the emotional garbage, as the Democrats generally have that nasty mentality. But here I see a segment of the party that call themselves the true conservatives, using agitprop and toilet rhetoric to achieve political power.
It is a shameful act of desperation that the party in power should not be using, but you do it anyway and the result is that we look worse than they do now.
Whatta shame! You and those like you will never achieve anything of note by insulting the very people you absolutely need for your opportunities to come to fruition..
You have insulted me and essentially the bulk of the party. We have decided to fight back and by not succumbing to your insults and pigheaded attitudes, we have angered you....
Well..... too bad!
Try to get your positions accomplished with some other party......Oh wait....You tried that already....No?
My point is made....You either play nice in the political sandbox, or you get tossed over the side and into the weeds.
Your choice....not mine. decisions, actions and introspection is required for you, not me. I have simply informed you of the truth. You are free to ignore it as you have, or perhaps think a bit with your brain, rather than some other body part.
But one thing is absolutely certain......
You will never get your demands and positions implemented by continuing to do the things you do today. That is a promise. Ask Pat Buchanan if you need confirmation and verification of what I am trying to explain in every way the English language allows..
There is a slew of people who have come into this debate and are poisoning the perceptions of the voter aggregate against Republicans.
The reason is that few in the party have called them on their motivations, and many here have allowed this to happen because they placed the issue ahead of the character and good name we have tried so hard to establish.
No party in power can maintain this power unless good character and intentions are manifested.
We have been damaged by this, and so has this web site.
I will continue to speak to this as necessary, and I hope more FReepers get their voices heard on this issue.
We cannot continue as we have, without losing everything we worked so hard to achieve. Character and ethics should alway supercede the need for numbers on any advocacy attempt, and we have not done that.
It has been noticed by the general public, and it has damaged us all. You lie down with dogs, and you always get up with fleas.