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Hello Nurse! - Is the U.S. stealing health care workers from abroad?
Reason ^ | May 30, 2006 | Kerry Howley

Posted on 05/30/2006 6:42:24 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 05/30/2006 6:42:26 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Only if they are HOT nurses. (did I just type that out loud?)


2 posted on 05/30/2006 6:45:40 PM PDT by ikka
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To: ikka

Most Philipinas are.

Only the senators like Mexicans more than Philipinos who speak english and were actually a colony of the US until WWII.

I would prefer immigrants from Philipines, India, or Jamaica, Bahamas, British West Indies to those who are proximal to our southern border. They can think read and blend into the melting pot easily as they speak english; some better than native US Citizens.


3 posted on 05/30/2006 6:48:48 PM PDT by axes_of_weezles
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To: neverdem

Capitalism works when we let it... that's why everyone else (Dems included) hate us.


4 posted on 05/30/2006 6:48:52 PM PDT by Army MP Retired (There Will Be Many False Prophets)
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To: axes_of_weezles
"as they speak english; some better than native US Citizens."

Good. My daughter had to ask an assistant to remain in the room with her Pakistani dentist last week. She couldn't understand a word he said.

5 posted on 05/30/2006 6:51:33 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: neverdem

Nurses eat their own and the hours suck too. If someone can handle the hours, the abuse from fellow coworkers,etc. then great. The profession has great money but the people in it can be very intimidating. Plus don't ever make the mistake of saying, " Yes I want a nursing job because one day I really want to be a doctor!"(((shudder))).


6 posted on 05/30/2006 6:53:46 PM PDT by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: sageb1

Sure they will have an accent. Why are you going to a Paki dentist? You pay the bills - go to one you can understand.

Jamaicans I met speak the Queens english.
Philipinos have an accent, too, but you can understand them.

The Indians I have been exposed to, I could clearly understand.


7 posted on 05/30/2006 6:58:21 PM PDT by axes_of_weezles
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To: neverdem
I have no great love of the nursing profession as it has a large union agenda. However, as in the case of software engineers, allowing the importing of cheaper foreign workers increases the supply of labor and decreases the wage. Econ 101.

In the long run, this guts the domestic nurse workforce. Good candidates who might consider nursing as a career will look elsewhere due to the relatively lower ware. The way to INCREASE the supply of nurses is to raise the wage, not allow others to come in and dampen salary.

8 posted on 05/30/2006 7:03:10 PM PDT by Drango (No electrons were harmed in this posting. Several however, were inconvenienced.)
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To: axes_of_weezles
"Why are you going to a Paki dentist?"

He just happens to be part of the dental group and was working emergencies. She had a scheduled appt. for 2 days later, but the tooth abcessed on her.

9 posted on 05/30/2006 7:08:20 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: neverdem

It occurs to me that we wouldn't need their (poor countries') nurses if they'd only stop sending us their unskilled, uneducated poor.


10 posted on 05/30/2006 7:08:35 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Drango
The way to INCREASE the supply of nurses is to raise the wage

Just what we need, higher health care costs.

Personally I think many American women and gay men are just too lazy to complete the studies to become nurses. I'm all for importing hard-working legal immigrants.

11 posted on 05/30/2006 7:09:25 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (Happy New Year! Breed like dogs!)
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To: coconutt2000

You dont generally get uneducated relatives from the Phillipines; They abide by the rules. There are Philipinos waiting on the list to immigrate; some since 1983.

The Philipino nurses I know; the majority are involved in long term care and nursing homes.

My wife is Philipina. Met her when I was stationed at Clark.

Philipinos use old US school textbooks. English is the only unifying language for the country, each island has it's own dialect; there are 20K islands and about 2500 dialects.


12 posted on 05/30/2006 7:16:20 PM PDT by axes_of_weezles
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To: neverdem

Yes. We've been doing that for nearly a hundred years. And the reason is simply that the hospitals don't want to (or can't) pay a market wage for these workers because of the high overhead caused by doctors' salaries, and because of the power that the physicians weild.


13 posted on 05/30/2006 7:28:22 PM PDT by Brilliant
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Lets rephrase this idea from yesteryear's to present. The hospitals can't afford to pay nurses more b/c of all the insurance premiums it pays for possible malpractice claims. While drs still make a decent living it's NOT what it used to be and most would be better going into something else(ie pediatricians and internists). The insurance companies have lowered drs. wages/reimbursements while at the same time continuing to raise premiums on individual policy holders. The individuals blame drs. for rising cost and the insurance companies laugh all the way to the bank. It's a brilliant scam.


14 posted on 05/30/2006 7:38:30 PM PDT by awin
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To: sageb1

Want to know how to say "screw you" in Tagalog?






"Thank you very much doctor".....


15 posted on 05/30/2006 7:40:55 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Drango

I don't think wages are the issue. I have a sister-in-law, and a sister has a step-son who are trained nurses. They both left the profession because of working conditions, not because of wages. Both earn less now than they could as nurses, but working conditions drove them away.

And, BTW, in both cases the problem was gov't legislation, not problems with the hospitals or doctors.


16 posted on 05/30/2006 7:41:53 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: cyborg

Money in nursing has not gone up much at all in the last ten years, just like in other professions. Don't let those sucker ads with big promises fool you.

The money isn't better, the hours are worse, the responsibility greater and the liability is nutz.

Like every other business, healthcare values cheap labor, not great experienced workers.

There are millions of educated nurses in the US. If they were paid what the job should be paid, they would come and they would stay.


17 posted on 05/30/2006 7:42:23 PM PDT by HonestConservative (Bless our Servicemen!)
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To: neverdem
You know, I'm surprised nobody's made the obligatory reference or posted the mandatory picture yet...

"Hello-o-o-o-o Nurse!"

18 posted on 05/30/2006 7:43:35 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Brilliant
Its malpractice and hospital overhead that are driving health care costs. The majority of health care spend is eaten up by hospitals taking care of people who didn't manage their illnesses ala diabetes and heart conditions. Also the cost of hospital care is increasing at a faster clip than other areas.
19 posted on 05/30/2006 7:44:17 PM PDT by statered ("And you know what I mean.")
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To: HonestConservative

I knew something was wrong when nurses were telling me don't get into nursing and everything else.


20 posted on 05/30/2006 7:46:02 PM PDT by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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