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To: Iris7
Mass deportation is a straw man constructed by the open borders crowd to justify amnesty. We just need to follow through on the promise of the 87 bill and make it impossible for illegals to work here. First, we need to revamp the Social Security system to elimnate fraud. Americans already have a "dossier" on them. Every couple years you get a statement from SS showing how much you earned in your entire life. So that argument is bogus. However if an employer calls SS to check on a number of an applicant, they are only told whether the number is valid. SS doesn't care how many names may be using the card. Often there dozens of different names employed under the same number. SS cards need to be as hard to duplicate as drivers licenses, and the SS adminstration should actively track down fraud, which should be vigorously prosecuted by the Feds. This should be given the same priority as say the War on Drugs.

And speaking of the WOD, once the above is accomplished, we can start taking some pages from that playbook for enforcement. We can use RICO laws against companies that systematically employ illegals. We should pass asset seizure laws along the lines of those used against drug dealers. If we empower local law enforcement agencies to seize the assets of illegals and their employers, and split the proceeds with the Feds, you will see a huge turnaround on the part of state and local governments. Instead of ignoring the issue, or directing police to never question the immigration status of people arrested, you would see them hop on the enforcement bandwagon. Put those reforms in place along with strict border enforcement, and you don't need mass deportations. People will deport themselves. Of course to make those changes assumes that Republican pols care as much about what their base wants as what business wants. Unfortunately far too many don't.

18 posted on 05/30/2006 9:13:06 AM PDT by Hugin
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To: Hugin
Won't work. Almost all employment of illegals is very much off the books and by small operations that don't keep records. Well, the bigger ones do keep records. At least two sets.

A tight Social Security system would be the same thing as the non-conterfeitable ID - internal passport - work permit - mass ID checking - dossier keeping - real time analysis and tracking situation I described earlier. A loosely held secret is that Social Security is full of bogus identities.

Another thing. I am satisfied that the "12 million" and "twenty million" estimates of the total number of illegals are way to low. There is a neighborhood in Chicago that was recently black (Polish and Balkan before that) that contains only brown faces. To satisfy my curiosity I drove the streets. On those crowded streets the pedestrians were 90% male and of these males 80 - 90% were in their late teens or twenties. The area was about one and a half square miles. Maybe a half million people depending on how many women and children I wasn't seeing. Oh, yeah, no cops there either.

I think the locals thought I was a Federale, the INS. Talk about being stared at!

23 posted on 05/30/2006 9:42:45 AM PDT by Iris7 (Dare to be pigheaded! Stubborn! "Tolerance" is not a virtue!)
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