Posted on 05/30/2006 1:39:14 AM PDT by goldstategop
Interesting article, despite the fact that it came from the SF Chronicle. My info comes from the CIA factbook. There is no caveat that 10% of Mexico's official population lives in the US.
Oh I understand perfectly well, I just based it on my estimate of what I thought Mexico population was roughly, 100 vs. 107.
If that is the case, why did you assert that the Heritage numbers would make Mexico a "ghost country." If you bothered to read to the end of the article, you will notice that Heritage reduced the number to 60 million based on amendments to the Senate bill.
Yes and no. It includes the current levels of migration. If the flood gates were truely open as this prediction suggests, the current net migration rate would go from -4.32 per 1000 to about ten times that or about 40 per 1000.
The Rector study makes no such assumption. Initally, the Senate bill had increased the LEGAL immigration number five times its current one million a year. The current bill increases the number threefold. You are also making the assumption that all of these legal immigrants will come from Mexico. That is not the case. You should read your own link to the SF article.
"Three-quarters of the estimated 12 million illegal migrants in the United States come from Mexico and Central America. Mexicans make up 56 percent of the unauthorized U.S. migrant population, according to the Pew Hispanic Center. Another 22 percent come from elsewhere in Latin America, mainly Central America and the Andean countries. These same countries send many of the half-million new illegal immigrants who arrive each year."
This would push their population growth from 1.16% to -2.84%, which would result in Mexico's population plumenting from 107 million to under 60 million over the next 20 years. Ain't going to happen. It's an over the top prediction that should never have been printed.
Phony strawman. Read the original Rector study which has been subequently been modified based on the new amendments to the Senate bill that were made primarily because of Rector and Sessions analyzing the impact of the bill on the numbers of legal immigrants.
Please note that the WH and CBO assume no illegal immigration in their figures.
I know where your numbers came from, but their difinition they use does not give any indication if they included citizens living in other countries legally or illegally. That's why I went elsewhere to see if that 107 included those currently in the US. According to the SF Chronicles it does, according to the CIA factbook, who knows.
Being a renter, I'm also very concerned. We've seen rents go up 7-9 % each year here in Los Angeles County. A one bedroom apartment in SE Los Angeles County can rent for over $1000/month. In West L.A., they're going for over $2000. It's even worse in Orange County, where a small bachelor apt. without a kitchen will rent for $1000/month.
There are very few new apartments being built, and there are more "Spanish speaking" people than ever flooding into Southern California. The apartment vacancy rates are around 3 %, and when an apartment does become available, it's snatched up within a day.
I can not afford to move, as my business is located here.
And I can not afford to buy at a median price of over $500,000!
According to this, that's exactly what they want, a North American Union without borders.
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=14965
I am in So. Calif. and new house building is booming.
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Hello....Rector is talking about immigrants from all over the world, not just Mexico.
Mexico makes up the majority current immigrants and will be where the vast majority of the increase will come from under this plan.
The majority of our legal immigrants do not come from Mexico. Mexico is our single largest source of of legal immigration (between 20 to 25 percent annually) it is true, but that is far different from from saying that majority of our total number of immigrants come from Mexico. Also, the majority of illegal immigrants do not actually come from Mexico itself (once you take into account all the immigrants who com here legally but then overstay their visas). Likewise the majority of all the immigrants coming under the Senate's plan would not be from a single country such as Mexico either.
Have a friend that just rented out a bedroom in her home for $925/month plus yard chores. While this is at the beach in Orange County, it is still absurd.
If we are talking about the undocumented/illegal immigrants, then Mexicans make up about 60% of that, and there is no reason not to think it will be the Mexicans who will make up the vast majority of these new immigrants under this plan.
Wrong, there are plenty of reasons to believe that a majority of new immigrants will not be Mexicans under the Senate's plan. The plan is an attempt to more or less try and put the rest of the immigrants on a somewhat equal footing. For years one of the big criticisms of our current immigration mess is that the Mexicans effectively crowd out the other immigrants in the system. The reason the percentage of Mexicans under our present policies is relatively high is simply a matter of logistics. The other immigrants in other countries can't exploit the loopholes in our immigration policies as the Mexicans do simply because they are not fortunate enough to actually live in a country that shares a 2,000 mile border with the U.S.. Less Mexicans "clogging" the bottleneck into this country simply means more available spots for the rest of the people throughout the world.
With 6 billion plus people living on this planet there is absolutely no shortage of people wanting to come here. There are probably several hundred million people in mainland China alone that would really like to come to America if actually given some sort of chance to do so. And this is just one of 120 plus countries that we are talking about.
The total percentage of non Mexican illegals is in all likelihood higher than what you claim because there is no comprehensive way to actually verify which visa holders have actually go back and as opposed to the rest who simply decide to stay.
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