[Coop]

This is because our leaders (Bush included) do not have the guts or judgment that we expect from 19 year old soldiers.

President Bush has more guts than you and me combined.

[Natural Law]

There was a time when I would have agreed with you, but not now. Just like the Vietnam War where I was betrayed by our government our current desire to fight a kinder, gentler war is costing lives. I had a good friend seriously wounded and was refused permission to return fire. I see the same thing happening now.

1) We have already been there longer than WWII.

2) There is no real De-Baathification program. Saddam and his henchmen are still alive.

3) We tolerate, and even promote the religious fanatics and militias that are killing our GIs. Muktada al Sadr is still alive and causing problems

5) I can count of at least 5 public incidents were front line soldiers have had legal actions initiated for combat related incidents.