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President Defies Most Republicans on Immigration
www.townhall.com ^ | May 29, 2006 | Phyllis Schlafly

Posted on 05/29/2006 10:52:30 AM PDT by cornelis

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To: cornelis
"Compassion?"

Compassion for whom? Certainly not the working class American. Certainly not the underclass Americans who must compete with illegal immigrants for social services & charity. Certainly not middle-class Americans who must shoulder the burden of excessive taxation to pay for the education of illegal immigrants.

Oh, you must be talking about compassion for the guy who doesn't want to mow his own lawn......or who doesn't want to pay payroll taxes.....or who doesn't want to pay workers comp.......

Yes, he really IS a compassionate conservative.....

41 posted on 05/29/2006 12:32:57 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Benjamin Rodriguez

Is that you Vincente?


42 posted on 05/29/2006 12:34:04 PM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: cornelis; All
There is simply no logical reason to grant any illegal an "earned pathway to citizenship".

If GWB REALLY believes that these people (illegals) are here to "do the work that Americans don't want to do"....then he would just support a bill that grants LEGAL RESIDENCEY ......and NOT a "pathway to citizenship".

There is simply no reason of justification to wave a magic wand and make these people citizens.
What would be the result of 12,000,000 (ridiculous low number)...to 22,000,000 (likely the true number) people made legal citizens who can then each petition for up to 16 family members to come in. taking the "median" number of 17,000,000...times 16 and that's one hell of a lot of dum-o-crats that GWB will be bringing in.

If GWB really believes there is a WOT going on, then how can he fight tooth and nail against having more secure borders.

His work so far in securing our borders is certainly not what one would believe is satisfactory during a time of WAR. He has HAD the power through Executive Order to put NG on the borders. So either the WOT is a total line of BS....or he is extremely negligent in letting 5000-7000 people stroll across our borders unaccounted for EASH WEEK during the last 5 years.

Which is it?

You can't have it both ways.

Any way you slice it or dice it....the RINO Republicans as well as GWB's position just doesn't add up.
43 posted on 05/29/2006 12:34:44 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: rockabyebaby
I am not a Bushbot and never will be,

These idiots don't care if you proclaim yourself to be not a Bushbot. The fact that you announce you support him when he's right is enough to label you as a Bushbot.

Funny how the DUmmie lingo has spread to the Lieberaltarians.

45 posted on 05/29/2006 12:41:17 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Remember the good old days when the worst thing the MSM did was fawn over Andropov?)
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To: cornelis
Bush prides himself on being a man of his word and he gave his word to Mexican President Vicente Fox

What about keeping faith with US citizens?

46 posted on 05/29/2006 12:47:45 PM PDT by A. Pole (Solzhenitsyn:"Live Not By Lies" www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/ arch/solzhenitsyn/livenotbylies.html)
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To: Wallace T.
I am waiting for the Bushbots to claim that Phyllis Schafly, who has been a conservative activist since before most of us were born, is really a radical extreme right wing racist fascist homophobic xenophobe who has sold out to Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party.

We will not have to wait long.

47 posted on 05/29/2006 12:48:30 PM PDT by A. Pole (Solzhenitsyn:"Live Not By Lies" www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/ arch/solzhenitsyn/livenotbylies.html)
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To: VeniVidiVici
Funny how the DUmmie lingo has spread to the Lieberaltarians.

Spoken like a true Bushbot

49 posted on 05/29/2006 12:52:25 PM PDT by A. Pole (GWB believes that "guest worker" program will satisfy economy needs for cheap and plentiful labour.)
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To: BLCA; B4Ranch; hedgetrimmer
Well he DID say that he's a "compassionate conservative." Now we know what that means.

We actually knew a long time ago, but we all hoped he wouldn't be able to abuse his power position sufficiently to push through some of the worst of his agenda.

E.g., "W's" RINO-RAT majority on the Illegal Alien Amnesty will only work in the Senate...let's pray that the House hangs tough...

I have voted for him twice, and support him when he does good, but I am forced as a matter of liberty and convictions to condemn the evil that he does and that he intends against our Republic.

As for early evidence of what he meant...this article pretty well sums it up for me:

My Bush epiphany
Laurence Auster, WorldNetDaily.com September 20, 2000

A few weeks before he was nominated as the Republican candidate for president of the United States, I happened to see Bob Dole being interviewed on TV. As I watched, everything I knew about Dole came to mind -- the love for big government that he had unembarrassedly revealed in his Senate retirement speech a few days earlier, the constant hints and sardonic asides by which he distanced himself from conservatives and accommodated himself to liberals, even the way his eyes kept shifting from side to side as he spoke. Suddenly the thought flashed into my mind: "He's not on our side; he's on their side."

It gives me no pleasure to say it, but George W. Bush, at least on some key issues, has given conservatives reason to have similar concerns about him. Of course, many conservatives were already put off by W.'s "compassionate" conservatism, his inclusion-soaked nominating convention, and his failure to say anything serious about the Clinton-Gore corruption of our national life. If W. would not take even a minimal stand against the epic illegalities and abuses of power that we have been living under, then how could his election be seen as a repudiation of those abuses, and how could it cleanse the country of the stain that Clinton has left?

By the same token, given the fact that W. panders to Hispanics and is so conspicuously fond of diversity, how can he be counted on to defend America's national identity and sovereignty from the organized Hispanic interest groups and globalist elites who are hostile to both? A case in point was his refusal during the primaries to criticize a Texas town where Spanish had been declared the official language.

Thus W. had already shown a troubling degree of softness on the important issues of public morality and national identity. But in a two-day period in late August, he went much further (or much further backward) on both fronts than he ever had before.

On the matter of public integrity, he announced his approval of Janet Reno's decision not to appoint a special counsel to investigate Al Gore's role in the 1996 campaign scandal. In doing this, W. was not just avoiding a "partisan attack" on Clinton-Gore corruption; he seemed to be going out of his way to help protect Clinton and Gore from accountability.

On the matter of national identity, W. delivered in Miami on Aug. 25 a major address on U.S.-Latin American relations, in which he unveiled a startling -- at least for a Republican -- view of America. We should pay close attention to his words:

We are now one of the largest Spanish-speaking nations in the world. We're a major source of Latin music, journalism and culture.

Just go to Miami, or San Antonio, Los Angeles, Chicago or West New York, New Jersey ... and close your eyes and listen. You could just as easily be in Santo Domingo or Santiago, or San Miguel de Allende.

For years our nation has debated this change -- some have praised it and others have resented it. By nominating me, my party has made a choice to welcome the new America.

Let us be clear that W. is not (as Republican politicians including Reagan have done for decades) celebrating immigrants from diverse backgrounds on the assumption that they are becoming part of our culture and way of life. On the contrary, he is applauding the expansion and the increasingly dominant role of the Hispanic culture and the Spanish language in this country. He is explicitly welcoming the very things that are making America less and less like its historical self and more and more like Latin America.

To repeat, this is not the usual establishment conservative line of "immigration with assimilation." This is multiculturalism, the view of America as a collection of unassimilated yet "equal" cultures in which our former national culture will be progressively downgraded and marginalized.

Also surprising is W.'s claim that Republicans have "made a choice to welcome the new America." Did Republicans realize that by nominating W. they were not only committing themselves to a pro-multicultural candidate, but shutting down all debate on the issue?

Complementing W.'s support for the Hispanicization of American culture was his view of Mexico-U.S. relations:

I have a vision for our two countries. The United States is destined to have a "special relationship" with Mexico, as clear and strong as we have had with Canada and Great Britain. Historically, we have had no closer friends and allies. ... Our ties of history and heritage with Mexico are just as deep.

In equating our intimate historic bonds to our mother country and to Canada with our ties to Mexico, W. shows a staggering ignorance of the civilizational facts of life. The reason we are so close to Britain and Canada is that we share with them a common historical culture, language, literature, and legal system, as well as similar standards of behavior, expectations of public officials, and so on.

We share none of those things with Mexico, which, along with the rest of Latin America, constitutes a cultural region quite distinct from that of the United States and Europe. Everyone, on both the left and the right, has always known this to be so. W., apparently, does not. As he sees it, our mere physical proximity to Mexico is tantamount to cultural commonality with Mexico.

W.'s delusions of cultural similarity don't stop there. "Differences are inevitable" between Mexico and the U.S.," W. continued. "But they will be differences among family, not between rivals."

Coming from the Republican candidate for president of the United States, the statement boggles the mind. It was bad enough when the Democrats in the 1980s started their socialist rant (soon echoed by the Republicans) that Americans are all "one family." But now George W., "The Man from Inclusion," has taken the "family" idea several steps further. For W., it is not just the United States, but the United States and Mexico, and ultimately the United States and the whole of the Americas, that constitutes one "family."

With this thoughtless cliché, W. is moving in symbolic terms toward the goal that Mexico's newly elected president Vicente Fox is calling for in concrete terms: the opening of the U.S.-Mexican border. After all, who would want to maintain national borders and high-tech barriers between members of the same family? Within a family there is unconditional support, mutual obligation, and the sense of a shared destiny -- not armed patrols and checkpoints.

Whether or not W. himself understands the logical implications of his "family" rhetoric, its political consequence if he becomes president will be the same -- the further delegitimization of our borders and our national sovereignty.

All of which leads up to the question: Why is he doing this? Most conservatives had accepted, if without enthusiasm, the pragmatic need for W. and other Republicans to project a warm and "inclusive" image, conspicuously embracing minorities and so on. But by no reasonable calculation did that require W. to embrace multiculturalism, any more than the need to avoid "negative attacks" on his Democratic opponent required him to praise Reno's cover-up of Gore.

Since his adoption of a multicultural vision of America makes no sense in political terms (indeed, it would tend to alienate his own base), the only explanation is that W. really believes in it. Watching his speech in Miami, you couldn't help but feel that W. is genuinely moved by this "We're all one family" sentiment. It is as central to his heart (about which he is always telling us) as the love of big government is to Bob Dole's.

Just as Dole at the 1996 Convention showed his liberal colors when he declared that the Republican party is rife with unspecified "haters" for whom "the exits are clearly marked," W. has unambiguously demonstrated his allegiance to the liberal policies of open borders and multiculturalism, characterizing everyone who dissents from those policies as driven by "resentment" and implying that they have no place in the Republican party. He has left no wiggle room for honest conservatives to tell themselves, "Well he's really on our side, the side of a unified American nation. He just has to say all these things about welcoming other cultures in order to get elected."

Of course, many principled conservatives feel they have strong reasons (I will leave it up to the reader to decide whether they are compelling reasons) to vote for W. They believe that with W. in the White House, there will be at least a chance of forestalling a further leftward lurch by the Supreme Court and such nightmarish statist projects (endorsed by Gore) as universal childcare. They also feel that our country cannot endure the continued debauching of our national institutions and character that has occurred under Clinton and Gore. But, if conservatives do mark their ballot for W. on Nov. 7, they should do it without illusions -- and they should be prepared to fight President Bush every inch of the way to preserve what remains of our national identity and sovereignty.

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Lawrence Auster lives in New York City.

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50 posted on 05/29/2006 12:56:06 PM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: taxed2death
If GWB REALLY believes that these people (illegals) are here to "do the work that Americans don't want to do"....then he would just support a bill that grants LEGAL RESIDENCEY ......and NOT a "pathway to citizenship".

Legal Residency, a Green Card, is automatically a path of citizenship.
51 posted on 05/29/2006 1:01:42 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: VeniVidiVici
The fact that you announce you support him when he's right is enough to label you as a Bushbot.

OK???? so I'm not supposed to support him when he's right???? That doesn't make sense in my world.....

53 posted on 05/29/2006 1:05:23 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (Say what you feel, those that matter don't mind, those that mind don't matter.)
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To: Paul Ross

>>they should be prepared to fight President Bush every inch of the way to preserve what remains of our national identity and sovereignty.<<

As I'm sure you know, posting articles such as this isn't the way to make a lot of friends on FR. Bush Bots don't want to debate the truth about the President or the R Party.

It is so much easier to say the Democrats are worse than it is to convince your friends to support the Constitution Party.


54 posted on 05/29/2006 1:14:32 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: Rick_Michael
As far as I am concerned, ALL of the Senators betrayed us by even letting this abortion get to a floor vote. It and all of its amendment should have died a dirty stinkin' death in committee. Period.

I'm none too happy about either of my Senators, even though they voted against it. They didn't work hard enough!

Today I wrote the second letter to my congressman about stopping this in conference or before.....

55 posted on 05/29/2006 1:22:08 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: cornelis

"defies most Republicans"... 'defies most Americans' also works.


56 posted on 05/29/2006 1:25:05 PM PDT by Pelham (McGuestWorkerProgram- Soon to serve over 1 billion Americans)
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To: Benjamin Rodriguez; Wallace T.

You signed up yesterday to give us that bit of "wisdom"?


57 posted on 05/29/2006 1:28:19 PM PDT by Pelham (McGuestWorkerProgram- Soon to serve over 1 billion Americans)
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To: VeniVidiVici

What flavor is the koolaid today?


58 posted on 05/29/2006 1:30:14 PM PDT by Pelham (McGuestWorkerProgram- Soon to serve over 1 billion Americans)
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To: cornelis; Jeff Head
Although the primary answer is "(c) Bush is a globalist at heart and wants to carry out his father's oft-repeated ambition of a "new world order"; "

As a consequence of his position thereto...all the other issues fall into line and are supporting thereto. So you could also say, "All of the Above."

But "(c)" is the explanation for all that he is doing.

It explains the monomania to destroy U.S. sovereignty and court autonomy with a series of unconstitutional trade "agreements" that are not passed by 2/3s Senate majorities as required.

It explains the President's push for the Law of the Sea Treaty, which lets the UN assert authority over the all the seas...and the right to tax the U.S. for use thereof. This treaty was killed by Ronald Reagan, properly firing all of its treasonous socialist authors from the State Dept. W has revived it, and tried to slicker it through with Richard Lugar's help. Might try and do what he did with the Illegal Amnesty bill...and do another Pact with the RATs and RINOs to overcome the Republican majority. Fortunately, a simple majority of rats and rinos is not enough for a treaty. They need 2/3rds...hence they have yet to try it. They know we still have more than 36 conservative votes against it.

It explains the constant failure to confront China.

And they thing which first caught my attention and Alamo-Girl's: It explains the constant failure to rebuild our strategic arsenal, or maintain our infrastructure of military industrial capacity, and squander in Xlintonesque fashion our residual Reagan legacy...with no serious re-capitalization intended. He doesn't intend that we should remain the Global Superpower.

His naval ship construction rate is notably... less than Bill Xlinton's!. The USN submarine fast attack fleet...supposed to be at 66 hulls according to the needs declared by the Joint Chiefs of Staff is already 10 below that, and at his current dilatory rates of production and regular retirement... will be half of that in another 15 years ...down to 28. His anemic production rates have caused our carrier fleet, which the JCS also believes that we need 15, has with underfunding-dictated retirement...fallen to only 11. And with continuing under-building of carriers, he is attempting to rationalize the resulting further collapse of the carrier fleet to 9 or 10.

The one bright spot: The Aegis missile defense has worked as good as advertised by its proponents. But then the Bad News: W is failing to actually deploy new Aegis cruisers over the baseline, and has a liesurely schedule of converting the cruisers we have to the new capability. The Navy begrudges diverting these essential cruisers to missile defense picket duty. Hence the crucial need to deploy DEDICATED Aegis Missile Defense cruisers. In fact, older Aegis cruisers are being retired which could be adapted are being retired with half their service life unused.

Rumsfeld admits that the Chinese Navy could have more attack submarines than we do by 2015. And who knows how much else. He expresses "concern" but apparenlty is unable to offer from W any timely funding to cure these.

Guess this is what W meant by being for "military transformation."

Wouldn't want a suddenly conservative U.S.Superpower to be able to "opt out" of the New World Order. Has to weaken us to the point we have to depend on Globalist agencies...for the most measily security arrangements.

59 posted on 05/29/2006 1:30:35 PM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: cornelis

Phyllis Schlafly .... I have the utmost respect for her and her ideology. On immigration and other matters


60 posted on 05/29/2006 1:32:13 PM PDT by dennisw (We should return to calling them Muhammadans -- Worshipers of Muhammad and maybe Allah)
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