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To: Pox
The reality is, OBL hates us just as much as he hates his brethren running the KSA, and if you believe the BS you are spewing I invite you to actually take your sorry ass over to Afghanistan/Pakistan and see for yourself how your theories hold up to reality. Those people don't like us, and it has VERY LITTLE to do with our presence in KSA and the ME.

I noticed how you gloss over the fact they weren't attacking us until after we stationed American troops to defend the Saudi Arabian King. I don't care if they don't like us. The French don't like us. But they had bigger fish to fry than us until we parked in their living room. You keep dodging the question, "do you think it is the duty of American soldiers to keep a Saudi or Kuwaiti King on his throne?"

Those nutbars are no different from the SS, and in fact have pretty much the same aspirations. Do you NOT believe OBL when he declares that he wants Islam to rule the world, and by extension himself as the anointed leader? If you cannot see that for yourself, you do not have a full grasp of current events.

If you think that is remotely possible you do not have a full grasp of reality.

Yes, thanks to colonial policies in centuries now past, we have issues that MUST be dealt with in the present, by us, the U.S.A., and anyone else willing to help, which unfortunately is not many since the majority of the world has a selfish and cowardly mindset that you so specifically display on this forum.

The White Man's Burden isn't the American Dream. Have you clued into the fact that it is a very narrow segment of Americans who want to play Globocop?

70 posted on 05/29/2006 4:27:07 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: Gunslingr3
Wonderful, I took 30 minutes to craft a reply and got hosed and lost it all.

I noticed how you gloss over the fact they weren't attacking us until after we stationed American troops to defend the Saudi Arabian King. I don't care if they don't like us. The French don't like us. But they had bigger fish to fry than us until we parked in their living room. You keep dodging the question, "do you think it is the duty of American soldiers to keep a Saudi or Kuwaiti King on his throne?"

I'm not glossing over or dodging anything. Your specious "question" is irrelevant. Prior to 1990/1991 there was no time for him to do anything as his organization was only beginning. OBL is an opportunist, and more importantly, a recruiter, first and foremost. He is also a megalomaniac. He thought HE could be the "defender" of KSA against SH but was very upset when he found out nobody considered him capable of defending an outhouse. He used his indignance to start his recruiting drive amongst some of the most extreme nutbars the world has to offer. Fortunately for us, the bulk of muslims did not buy into his Wahabbi extremism outside of Waziristan and Eastern Afghanistan like they would have in centuries past.

You seem quick to buy into his recruiting spiel, as are most of the liberals/cowards in the world who will do or say anything to avoid "conflict".

In the end, our reason for being in the KSA during GW1 were not to "keep them on the throne" as your asinine assumption insists. Try thinking about the world economy for a moment and the ramifications if SH was given free reign in the KSA oil fields. This had nothing to do with OBL vs Fahd. It had everything to do with keeping another megalomaniac from running rampant in the ME. You discard that rationale at the expense of sanity, IMO.

After the Soviets left Afghanistan, OBL got a swollen head and so began his megalomania. Using the excuse of our troops being in the KSA gave him a powerful recruiting tool, but that's all it was useful for at the time. His organization was always going to be considered a fringe element unless he unloaded against the big dog, the US. Consider the reality behind that truism. You have your cause and effects jammed in reverse.

If you think that is remotely possible you do not have a full grasp of reality.

And you immediately validate my assertion! OBL and AQ are eerily similar to Himmlers SS in many facets. Do not let his piety fool you, he simply uses it as a means to an end.

The White Man's Burden isn't the American Dream. Have you clued into the fact that it is a very narrow segment of Americans who want to play Globocop?

Gee, it sure seems you have the antiwar/liberal talking points down pat. Don't be so quick to place the blame on the "white man", as there is plenty of "blame" to go around in NA and the ME. The Globocop BS is but another strawman that has no bearing on reality. We're in this for the world economy as much as our own selfish interests and safety whether you choose to acknowledge it or not.

In the end, you are espousing the "Blame America First" nonsense and that makes you a sniveling coward in my opinion, and a waste of sperm.
75 posted on 05/29/2006 5:51:01 PM PDT by Pox
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