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Pentagon pressing for new rapid-strike weapon: report [submarine-launched Trident-2 missile.]
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Posted on 05/28/2006 5:04:43 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Pentagon pressing for new rapid-strike weapon: report

19 minutes ago

The Pentagon is seeking congressional approval for development of a new weapon able to strike distant targets an hour after they are detected, a newspaper reported on Monday.

The International Herald Tribune said the weapon would be a non-nuclear version of the submarine-launched Trident-2 missile and be part of a president's arsenal when considering a pre-emptive attack.

The report quoted military officials as saying it could be used to hit terrorist camps, enemy missile sites, suspected caches of weapons of mass destruction and other urgent threats.

General James Cartwright, head of the U.S. Strategic Command, said the system would allow U.S. forces to attack targets conventionally and precisely and "limit the collateral damage."

The Pentagon would like the system available in two years, the report said.

But the program has run into resistance from lawmakers concerned it could increase the risk of an accidental nuclear war. Under the Pentagon plan, both non-nuclear and nuclear-tipped variants of the Trident-2 missile would be loaded on the same submarines.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: miltech; nonnuclear
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1 posted on 05/28/2006 5:04:44 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

The military is also working on a sub-orbital rocket that could deliver ordnance to any spot on Earth in 1 hour or less. They are hoping to have it by 2020.


2 posted on 05/28/2006 5:06:58 PM PDT by tlj18 (Bush and Hu Jintao meeting in Washington, amid grand ceremony... how can I *NOT* think "treason" ??)
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To: Sub-Driver

kill'em already!!!


3 posted on 05/28/2006 5:08:05 PM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (Islam Schmislam blahblahblah, enough already!)
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To: tlj18
The military is also working on a sub-orbital rocket that could deliver ordnance to any spot on Earth in 1 hour or less. They are hoping to have it by 2020.

The Soviets had a system that could do this back in the 1970's. Of course their delivery system carried a multimegaton thermonuclear warhead.

4 posted on 05/28/2006 5:08:48 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (This Space For Rent.)
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To: Sub-Driver

whoo hoo "rapid-strike" I like the sound of that. :)


5 posted on 05/28/2006 5:10:37 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: tlj18

This trident modification would fill the gap until the new weapon system is ready.


6 posted on 05/28/2006 5:12:53 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Sub-Driver
But the program has run into resistance from lawmakers concerned it could increase the risk of an accidental nuclear war

As compared to just sitting and talking about what we should do for months while taking more hits?

8 posted on 05/28/2006 5:18:35 PM PDT by llevrok (Stop the Latin Insurgents !!!)
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To: Sub-Driver; SmithL

Non-Nuclear for more than coastal defense ?


9 posted on 05/28/2006 5:24:18 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Sub-Driver

Sounds good to me.Of course the dims don't like it.Sen.Jack Reed(D)RI,"It would be hard to tell if a missle coming out of a Trident submarine is conventional or nuclear."If it were up to the dims we wouldn't get this missle,but then again if it were up to the dims we probably wouldn't have any subs either.


10 posted on 05/28/2006 5:25:26 PM PDT by Thombo2
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To: CAWats

Yeah, but then we'd have to pay the missile the "Prevailing Wage" for other forms of transportation. /sarc


11 posted on 05/28/2006 5:27:33 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: Sub-Driver
it could be used to hit terrorist camps, enemy missile sites, suspected caches of weapons of mass destruction and other urgent threats.

I thought we could do that same kind of thing now with cruise missiles. Have they become vulnerable to some new missile defense technology the Chinese and Russians have cooked up?

12 posted on 05/28/2006 5:29:59 PM PDT by epow (Outside of a dog a book is man's best friend, inside a dog it's too dark to read a book, Groucho)
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To: Sub-Driver
See also http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1636734/posts
13 posted on 05/28/2006 5:30:48 PM PDT by fso301
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To: epow
Cruise missiles are relatively slow when compared to an SLBM. Tomahawks sometimes take several hours to reach their targets.

Ballistic missiles can hit theirs in an hour or so, sometimes much less depending on where they are launched from.

L

14 posted on 05/28/2006 5:34:13 PM PDT by Lurker (Real conservatives oppose the Presidents amnesty proposal. Help make sure it dies in the House.)
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To: Sub-Driver

It's an interesting idea, but like the article says, launching ballistic missiles from subs can cause the wrong people to overreact.


15 posted on 05/28/2006 5:36:45 PM PDT by edpc
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To: Sub-Driver

In one of my collection of Tom Clancy-style paperback shoot-em-ups there's reference to a fictional Arsenal Ship that is basically like a supertanker in size and shape. It holds several thousand vertical launch tubes containing a broad mix of ballistic and cruise missiles, bristles with air defense missiles and guns, and has Aegis fire control. If something like that existed, think of the anxiety it would cause some third world tyrant to have a few of those ships cruising around offshore while he's banging his saber on the podium and getting the peasants riled up against The Great Satan. Nationalize OUR companies will you? Hold OUR citizens hostage will you? Etc.


16 posted on 05/28/2006 6:13:36 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: edpc; Sub-Driver

> But the program has run into resistance from lawmakers
> concerned it could increase the risk of an accidental
> nuclear war.

Makes more sense as:
But the program has run into resistance from Democrats
concerned it could increase the risk of victory.

> ... but like the article says, launching ballistic
> missiles from subs can cause the wrong people to overreact.

So can daisy cutters and MOABs, whose plumes look like
nuclear mushroom clouds, but we have them, and use them.

Obviously, the NNSLBM needs to be launched with due
consideration for who might detect it and how they
might respond.

I'd be more interested in the cost-effectiveness:
yield, CEP, penetration, etc. What are the scenarios
where this is THE tool you want at hand? Are all of
those quick-strike missions, or does the NNSLBM do
something else no other weapon can?


17 posted on 05/28/2006 6:52:34 PM PDT by Boundless (The only competencies of the UN are corruption, enslavement, misery & death.)
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To: george76; Doohickey; judicial meanz; submarinerswife; PogySailor; chasio649; gobucks; Bottom_Gun; ..

Incoming!


18 posted on 05/28/2006 7:33:37 PM PDT by SmithL (I voted)
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To: Sub-Driver
Wasn't that on 24 last week? That Jack Bauer...he has EVERYthing!

But seriously....it sounds fabulous!!!

19 posted on 05/28/2006 7:34:44 PM PDT by NordP (Dig a moat the length of Mexican border, take the dirt & raise New Orleans' levees--add alligators.)
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To: tlj18
The military is also working on a sub-orbital rocket that could deliver ordnance to any spot on Earth in 1 hour or less.

Well this is great but can we eliminate the threat of primative IED's first?

It's wonderful we can place a laser beam on a fly's anus from outer space but could we improve our ability to figure out what 64' Dodge Dart has the bomb in it first?

20 posted on 05/29/2006 1:04:47 AM PDT by zarf (Breaking free from the limpid tentacles of packed Mediterranean defense)
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