[Lucky Dog]

Perhaps we have failure to communicate. My point was that the APA and a significant number of homosexual practitioners have resisted the classification of homosexual activity as a mental disorder.

Consequently, my point was that to be successful in opposing homosexual activity, one must either convince the APA, et al, to change their position or attack the practice on different grounds. As an example, rather that directly asserting that homosexual behavior is a mental disorder, the indirect approach would be to logically show that it can not be otherwise though comparison to similar activities.

[DBeers]

Perhaps we have failure to communicate.

Or possibly disparate goals? I think we are on the same 'side' on this issue; however, I come at this from a perspective of effectivess being more important than being right... Assuming potential effectiveness (potential success) being correlated in ascending order directly to spheres of concern, influence, and control -I tend to separate the wheat from the chaff and focus on the vital few goals that can be realized (convincing the APA of anything is not one of these)

I am occupied right now and I will have to get back to this when I can give it due attention...