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To: Carry_Okie; jveritas
--- Look, I know how bad both phosgene and Saddam are. I have no dispute with that. Here is the reality: you can make phosgene by overheating PVC plastics. It's easy. PVC is everywhere. ---

"Chlorine gas is never produced when PVC burns, and while the possibility of producing phosgene from burning PVC has been suggested, following reports of minimal quantities produced in laboratory experiments, it has never been detected in large scale fire tests and it is not considered a significant product of PVC combustion."

http://www.svpindustries.com/pdf/pvc-and-fire.pdf

49 posted on 05/28/2006 7:58:42 PM PDT by avacado
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To: avacado
Exactly. If PVC burning will produce any significant doze of Phosgene, thousands of people will die every day.
50 posted on 05/28/2006 8:04:37 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: avacado
...it is not considered a significant product of PVC combustion."

Allow me to ruin your day, even more: I worked seven years as a project engineer in the PVC industry. We had to take special provisions to preclude exposure to phosgene (not to mention VCM). With the tons of PVC available in packaging alone, the Iraqis could have obtained enough to create weapons. The chlorinated hydrocarbons in PVC and pesticides in any country with industry and agricultural as significant as Iraq is sufficient to produce enough phosgene to do serious damage.

51 posted on 05/28/2006 9:28:12 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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