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To: B Knotts
The Founding Fathers organized things they way they did for good reasons, and with a knowledge of human nature.

The Founding Father's put exceptions into the Speech and Debate Clause.

They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.

Treason might apply as well if there is hostile foreign government involvement.

262 posted on 05/28/2006 10:39:45 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: El Gato
I have seen NO ONE who has said that this particular search was unwarrented, what some of us are trying to point out is the historical reason for the "Search and Debate" clause of the Constitution and why congressional offices should not under most circumstances be done.

This search was done with probable cause and Jefferson, D-LA's, refusal of supoenas. THIS SEARCH WAS justified. Just be careful who has this power in the future.
270 posted on 05/28/2006 10:54:51 AM PDT by acsrp38 (Warning!!! If we voted against God in NE - we will vote against you)
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To: El Gato

[Nigerian] Vice President Atiku Abubakar agreed to the "program of cooperation that includes missile technology" with Yang Hyong Sop, the visiting vice president of the North Korean presidium, Abubakar spokesman Onukaba Ojo, told The Associated Press. The North Korean was to be in Nigeria’s capital, Abuja, through Saturday. Weapons sales are a major revenue source for financially strapped North Korea.------- "Nigeria Makes Missile Deal With N. Korea," http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=515&ncid=721&e=9&u=/ap/20040128/ap_on_re_af/nigeria_north_korea


280 posted on 05/28/2006 11:32:06 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: El Gato
The Founding Father's put exceptions into the Speech and Debate Clause.

No, they didn't. They put exceptions into the Privilege from Arrest clause:

They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same;
They didn't put exceptions into the Speech and Debate clause:
and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.
Two separate clauses. The semicolon is there for a reason.
335 posted on 05/28/2006 5:34:15 PM PDT by Sandy
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