Posted on 05/27/2006 11:02:16 AM PDT by wagglebee
bttt
I figured this was a financial thread too!
He wouldn't. You know you are dealing with cultists when they fall back on Islamist-style "But the Book says...!" arguments so quickly. FR is educational in a lot of ways - it helps us understand the mindset of our Middle Eastern enemies with real-life examples. ;)
Individualism and "me-first" do not at all have to go together, as much as the Left would have us think so. That the author sees fit to link the two terms raises something of a red flag IMO. The fact is that a society that doesn't value the individual will not be a free society. Honesty is something that must come from within...within the individual.
So living a farce, lying to yourself and God, is better than getting an abuser out of your life? Hardly.
Doubt it. Nobody really knows the private lives of their friends and neighbors.
One might argue that an abusive man broke his end of the contract in Ephesians 5:25-29.
Way to blame the victim. It's not the beaten's fault, the person at fault in abuse is ALWAYS the abuser. It's not because the abused didn't "discern better" it's because the abuser is a no good piece of shit who should be killed.
Abusers are very sneaky. They don't beat somebody up on their first date. In fact many abusers are really incredibly nice people, when they're not swinging their fists. My wife had an abusive boyfriend, nobody believed her, he was a nice guy, her parents loved him, because they never saw him drag her across the room by her hair, they only saw him get a great job andbuy the whole family dinner. Abuser excel and not doing anything bad until the other person falls in love, the other thing they're great at is making the abused feel it's their fault. Abusers are also brainwashers.
And blaming the victim makes you almost as much of a POS as an abuser. Learn before you type, because frankly what you typed is disgusting, reprehensible, and vile.
Good argument can be made for that.
How does one lie to oneself by staying with a spouse or staying true to one's word?
How does one live any sort of farce by following one's own vow?
The farce is not with the person who, seemingly, did no harm. It is the person who is not living up to their potential who is.
That said, we can only control what we do with what we say and do. If you live with integrity and honor, then there is no lie or farce for which you are a part.
If that is the standard for breaking the marriage vow, then absolutely anything less than the greatest perfection in striving to be your best for your spouse and God is valid to divorce.
It can't be that way. Paul offers encouragement there, not grounds for divorce.
But I understand the sentiment.
Living seperate lives is no longer behaving as a married couple. Keeping the marriage while being seperated is living a lie, it's keeping the piece of paper and disgarding everything else. It's creating a fiction of a marriage.
The farce is in splitting up the marriage but pretending it still exists. If there's an irreconcilable problem with the marriage, like one memeber is an abuser or philanderer, then the marriage needs to be ended.
Well certainly giving your wife a black eye violates 5:27.
Vinyl is groovy, man!
I totally agree!
Is your wife happily married to you? I sure hope so!!! ;-)
No you're not, you're blaming the victim. False comparison, loan officers don't beat the crap out of you for burning dinner.
Another false comparison, you know what you're getting into when you join the military, many abusers remain well behaved until it's too late.
No you're blaming the victims, saying that just because they got married before they realized the person was a POS they must stay married. If my MIL had her way my wife would have married him, she made it clear in no uncertain terms in the early years of our marriage that my wife picked the wrong guy.
People who blame the victims are vile disgusting pigs. And the more you do it the bigger a POS you're becoming. You obviously don't know anything about abusers and how they work, you're saying all the same completely ignorant things my MIL says when my wife dares say something bad about her abuser, she's wrong, you're wrong, and you need to learn.
Blaming the victim is one of the most vile and repulsive things a person can ever do. You're not speaking the truth, you're saying Nicole Brown deserved to die, you're saying people deserve to be beaten by the one person in the world who should NEVER raise a hand against under any circumstances. That's not truth, that's sickening.
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