THE GREAT DIVIDE [puritan v agrarian republicans] Too simplistic a treatment and in my opinion a treatment subjectively skewed in presentation in this case to favor the agrarian extreme... (I assume you to be a libertarian?)
Anyway, I much rather prefer to look at pieces of the whole rather than to take a whole cloth approach and as such prefer simplistic labels such as moral conservatism, fiscal conservatism etcetera... Since the issue is rightly one of morals and as such rightly a "moral divide" then we in essence discuss the extremes of moral conservatism and moral liberalism and all that lies between the two...
As to "Republicanism" -the general ideology that premises the political party is that of "Republic". As to the party and morality, the republican big tent is comprised of various Republican factions (Bith liberal & conservative) who contribute based upon numbers some measure of political relevancy to the party. In politics it is consensus that is power and as such relevance -NOT ideology... So, setting aside the impotent platitudes reserved for political losers -the "agrarians" if as is implied they be morally liberal at this time hold the short straw...
As an aside for any interested, here are some links to what I have found to be a good method by which to measure and appraise just where you morally "fit" politically whether you may specifically realize it or not...
The Moral Matrix - Political Systems
The Moral Matrix - Recent US Presidents
Moral Politics - A Morality-Based Political Test
THE GREAT DIVIDE [puritan v agrarian republicans]
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Too simplistic a treatment and in my opinion a treatment subjectively skewed in presentation in this case to favor the agrarian extreme... (I assume you to be a libertarian?)
>> I'm a constitutionalist, and the document is very libertarian, so yes. <<
Anyway, I much rather prefer to look at pieces of the whole rather than to take a whole cloth approach and as such prefer simplistic labels such as moral conservatism, fiscal conservatism etcetera... Since the issue is rightly one of morals and as such rightly a "moral divide" then we in essence discuss the extremes of moral conservatism and moral liberalism and all that lies between the two...
>> See my post about Ezra Benson -- he has a fine sense of how morals should influence 'proper government'. <<
As to "Republicanism" -the general ideology that premises the political party is that of "Republic". As to the party and morality, the republican big tent is comprised of various Republican factions (Bith liberal & conservative) who contribute based upon numbers some measure of political relevancy to the party.
In politics it is consensus that is power and as such relevance -NOT ideology...
>> Hmm, the consensus of power rules? -- In a constitutional republic? -- You sure? <<
So, setting aside the impotent platitudes reserved for political losers -the "agrarians" if as is implied they be morally liberal at this time hold the short straw.
>> Jeffersonian/Madisonian republicans are " political losers"? -- Read the essay. <<