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Use of English touchy subject here on border
The Yuma Sun ^ | May 26, 2006 | Blake Schmidt

Posted on 05/26/2006 10:01:57 PM PDT by GoRepGo

Mindy McClain has attended the same state-sponsored child-care training program for years.

But this year, when she signed up and paid her $20 fee, she was told that the program, which is funded through the Arizona Department of Economic Security, would be presented in Spanish instead of English for the first time. If she wanted to hear it in English, she would be provided with a translating device.

"I'm like, excuse me ... I don't think so," said McClain, the director of the Children's Center preschool in Yuma.

She and 10 other women demanded their money back and promised not to attend.

"I feel very offended," McClain said.

Since then, the DES has given in to pressure from McClain and a few others, and the program will be held in English, despite the fact that 85 percent of those attending will be Spanish-speaking caregivers, according to Lourdes Encinas, who helped organize the event.

"It's bad enough that with a bachelor's degree, I can't go out and get a well-paying job with benefits I'm qualified for because I don't speak Spanish in my own country," McClain said.

The use of English is not only an issue locally, but also nationally.

Last week in his visit to Yuma, President George W. Bush said one of the five components of his immigration-reform plan would be to encourage immigrants to learn English. Soon afterward, the U.S. Senate approved amendments to an immigration bill that would establish English as America's "national language," a move that has drawn criticism from parts of the Hispanic community.

Also, a group of U.S. House Republicans is pushing to drop a section of the 1965 Voting Rights Act which requires certain states and counties to provide bilingual ballots for voters.

(Excerpt) Read more at sun.yumasun.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; arizona; des; english; nationallanguage; votingrightsact
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To: GoRepGo
Want to have a kicker... have you ever listen to a Spanish language channel or the Spanish news... while we English speaker don't translate Spanish place names (it still Los Angeles Cabo San Lucas) and then you still have the Spanish speaker making a big deal about pronouncing the names "right"

But the Spanish alway translate English place names to Spanish...its Nueva York, Cabo Canaveral...

The other thing is the English language TV channel have the SAP (secondary audio program) but the Spanish language channel , we have 8 over the air in Los Angeles never have English on there SAP...

The funny thing is they play alot of English language movies dubbed in to Spanish...it's not like there's not an English language trak that could play on the SAP to pull a few English speaker in or help their Spanish language viewers learn English

21 posted on 05/26/2006 10:49:27 PM PDT by tophat9000 (If it was illegal French Canadians would La Raza back them? Racist back there race over country)
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To: hershey

That's how I felt today, when I heard that. Those Sons of a B*tches. Makes me really angry.


22 posted on 05/26/2006 10:51:47 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: CheyennePress

"Funny thing is, Mexico won't let you as an American buy property in Mexico within miles of the coast. Only Mexican citizens can. Meanwhile, our politicians suck up to those double-talking dirtbags."


I live in San Diego 20 minutes from the border, I haven't been in Baja for at least 15 years.

If I was a Mexican I would own a home on the beach there and be there every weekend.

I personally would love to be in the situation of these or the last batch of illegals.

In fact I would trade my American citizenship for Mexican right now, which is a choice they don't have to make.


23 posted on 05/26/2006 10:52:36 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: TexasTransplant

:>)


24 posted on 05/26/2006 11:02:08 PM PDT by spectre
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To: David Allen

I will trade 1,000 New Orleans Refugees (US Citizens) for 10,000 illitarate Salvadoran women anyday.

Now how do I round up and ship these 1,000 pieces of dog excrement to Salvadore?

I'm ready to TRADE TODAY.

TT


25 posted on 05/26/2006 11:06:34 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: CrawDaddyCA

That's what I'm talking about. There are some who go into services who learn English, but a lot who do nanny work, or outside work, or such, simply refuse to learn and try to get you to use their words.

It's a culture whose biggest accomplishment is figuring out how to smuggle its citizens into a better country.


26 posted on 05/26/2006 11:07:59 PM PDT by David Allen (the presumption of innocence - what a concept!)
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To: TexasTransplant

Only problem is the 1000 NO people have negative trade value.


27 posted on 05/26/2006 11:12:45 PM PDT by David Allen (the presumption of innocence - what a concept!)
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To: TexasTransplant

Don't worry. Human traffickers and slave traders have you covered for the illiterate Salvadorians. It's one-way though.


28 posted on 05/26/2006 11:21:12 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Remember the good old days when the worst thing the MSM did was fawn over Andropov?)
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To: David Allen

Crap ... I bought High


29 posted on 05/26/2006 11:23:22 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: TexasTransplant

You'll find them under "liabilities."


30 posted on 05/26/2006 11:36:09 PM PDT by David Allen (the presumption of innocence - what a concept!)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Care to expand, proof?

TT


31 posted on 05/26/2006 11:43:35 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: TexasTransplant

Lot articles on it. It's not exactly a big secret:


http://www.libertadlatina.org/LatAm_Sex_Slavery_Index.htm

http://www.afajournal.org/2004/april/404culture.asp

http://www.suntimes.com/special_sections/traffic/cst-nws-traffic07.html

http://www.humantrafficking.com/humantrafficking/features_ht3/MSNBC_Sex_Slaves/MSNBC_1.htm

http://www.humantrafficking.com/humantrafficking/client/view.aspx?ResourceID=731

http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/48633.htm


32 posted on 05/26/2006 11:58:16 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Remember the good old days when the worst thing the MSM did was fawn over Andropov?)
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To: GoRepGo
I just start talking in Chinese. Seriously. I just keep at it until I get what I am trying to get. Takes a bit longer but everyone gets the idea.

Hey, if they can speak in Spanish, I can speak in Chinese.

33 posted on 05/27/2006 12:07:36 AM PDT by BJungNan
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To: TexasTransplant

If you want faster service, press the Spanish option on phone prompts. The person that answers speaks English just fine and you get to them quicker than waiting for an English operator.

But don't tell anyone. I would not want anyone else to know my little secret.


34 posted on 05/27/2006 12:08:56 AM PDT by BJungNan
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To: TexasTransplant

Here is an idea for everyone. Want to make it difficult for non-English speaking persons, want to counter the spread of the second language?

When prompted, always use the Spanish option. Tie it up. May cause some to start using the English lines - they might actually learn it.

And I can't wait for some operator to tell me I am not allowed to use the Spanish line because I don't speak Spanish. I'll ask them for the Chinese line then.


35 posted on 05/27/2006 12:11:27 AM PDT by BJungNan
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To: VeniVidiVici
Your sources do not indict the USA which is what I assumed that you were inferring, Slavery is a Charge that I as an American (US Citizen) will not accept.

We as Americans, Free People! We do not Enslave them. (Unless of course you include the IRS)

Excellent links, I will spend more time on them tomorrow.

Thanks

TT
36 posted on 05/27/2006 12:13:32 AM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: GoRepGo
I was in Houston a few weeks ago at the airport. I was hungry as I was leaving so I stopped at the nearest McDonalds I saw for breakfast. There wasn't one sign anywhere for miles in English. NOT ONE! The only English was the street signs. Every store, every billboard, everything was in Spanish. I stopped at the restaurant and no one could take my order until the girl at the drive in window was done because she was the only one to speak some broken English. They wanted me to point to a number on the menu, but I wanted what I wanted, not a number on the menu. The TV was on in the dining area and it was on Telamundo or some such channel.

God help us.

37 posted on 05/27/2006 12:30:31 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: ansel12

No more dual citizenship for anyone."

YES. GOOD POINT.


38 posted on 05/27/2006 12:42:47 AM PDT by WOSG (Do your duty, be a patriot, support our Troops - VOTE!)
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To: WOSG

"No more dual citizenship for anyone."

YES. GOOD POINT."



I think everyone would be shocked at the reaction if the illegals were faced with the choice of only one passport, being locked into being an "American".

We aren't gaining Americans we are simply giving a business and benefit gift to people from around the world.

Multiple citizenship is something I want too.


39 posted on 05/27/2006 12:53:06 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: CrawDaddyCA
"I'm currently working on a dive boat in the Gulf of Mexico ..."

Back in the late 70's I contracted a dive boat out of Santa Barbara CA.
Owner was Cuban exile and all crew from Baja.
Crew was amazing - multi lingual and versed in history and technology.

Boat sank.
So has any respect I might muster for the 'aqui si habla espanol' hoards that now represent mexican foreign policy.

40 posted on 05/27/2006 1:25:09 AM PDT by norton
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