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1 posted on 05/26/2006 3:57:43 PM PDT by Uncledave
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To: Uncledave
Rush was really "on" today, it was one of his better shows.
2 posted on 05/26/2006 3:59:38 PM PDT by rodguy911 (support the new Media, ticket the drive-bys)
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3 posted on 05/26/2006 4:02:21 PM PDT by peyton randolph (Time for an electoral revolution where the ballot box is the guillotine)
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On the last, cold day of December in the dying year we count as 406, the river Rhine froze solid, providing the natural bridge that hundreds of thousands of hungry men, women, and children had been waiting for. They were the barbari-- to the Romans an undistinguished, matted mass of Others, not terrifying, just troublemakers, annoyances, things one would rather not have to deal with-- non-Romans. To themselves they were, presumably, something more, but as the illiterate leave few records, we can only surmise their opinion of themselves.

Neither the weary, disciplined Roman soldiers, ranked along the west bank, nor the anxious, helter-skelter tribes amassing on the east bank could have been giving much thought to their place in history. But this moment of slack, this relative calm before the pandemonium to follow, gives us the chance to study the actors on both sides of this river and to look backward on what has been and forward to what will be.

Europe, rising out of Lake Constance in the northern Alps, bending and bowing north, then northwest, till after 820 miles of travel it reaches the coast of continental Europe and empties into the North Sea just opposite the Thames estuary. Returning to our Alpine heights, we can spot another river, rising from a smaller lake just north of Constance and coursing east for more than twice the length of the Rhine till it spends itself in the Black Sea. This is the Danube, Europe's longest river (after the Volga). To the north and east of these two Alpine rivers live the barbarians. To the south and west lies Romania, in its time the vastest and most powerful empire in human history.

The omnipotence and immensity of this empire-embracing, as it did, "the whole of the civilized world"— are not the qualities that would strike us were we to soar above the Mediterranean on that fateful day. What we would discern is the very opposite of power-- fragility, specifically geographic fragility. "We live around a sea," the perspicacious Socrates had reminded his listeners, "like frogs around a pond." For all the splendor of Roman standard, the power of Roman boot, and the extent of Roman road, the entire empire hugs the Mediterranean like a child's village of sand, waiting to be swept into the sea. From fruitful Gaul and Britain in the north to the fertile Nile Valley in the south, from the rocky Iberian shore in the west to the parched coasts of Asia Minor, all provinces of the empire turn toward the great sea, toward Medi-Terra-neathe Sea of Middle Earth. And as they turn to the center of their world, they turn their back on all that lies behind them, beyond the Roman wall. They turn their back on the barbarians.

That Rome should ever fall was unthinkable to Romans: its foundations were unassailable, sturdily sunk in a storied past and steadily built on for eleven centuries and more. There was, of course, the prophecy. Someone, usually someone in his cups, could always be counted on to bring up that old saw: the Prophecy of the Twelve Eagles, each eagle representing a century, leaving us with-- stubby fingers counting out the decades in a puddle of wine-- only seventy years remaining! Give or take a decade! Predictable laughter at the silliness of the whole idea. But in seventy years exactly, the empire would be gone.

Eternal Rome, eleven centuries old, hardly foresaw its doom. But theories about its fall are very old indeed. Two dozen years after this Roman-barbarian encounter along the Rhine, Augustine of Hippo, second city of Roman Africa, will be lying on his deathbed, listening to the clamor of another wave of barbarians as they attack the walls of his city. He has barely finished the final pages of his great defense of Christianity-- The City of God-- written to contradict the Roman pagans who discerned behind the barbarian assaults the old gods of Rome, angry at being forsaken by Christian converts. (No, insists Augustine eloquently, it is not Christianity but vice-encumbered paganism that is bringing the empire down.) Nine centuries later, as impressive feats of Roman engineering and sculpture are being dug up all over Italy at the dawn of the Renaissance, the question of what became of the cultural giants who built these things will be on everyone's lips. Petrarch, the Tuscan poet and scholar who is rightly remembered as the father of Renaissance humanism, rediscovers the concept of a "fall," which, following Augustine's lead, he blames on the empire's internal faults. Machiavelli, writing a century and a half later in a less spiritual, more cynical time, will blame the barbarians.

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Clues to the character of the Roman blindness are present in the scene along the frozen Rhine. The legionnaires on the Roman bank know that they have the upper hand, and that they always will have. Even though some are only half-civilized recruits recently settled on this side of the river, they are now Romans, inheritors of nearly twelve centuries of civilization, husbandry, agriculture, viniculture, horticulture, cuisine, arts, literature, philosophy, law, politics, martial prowess-- and all the "gear and tackle and trim" that goes with these pursuits. The world has never known anything as deep, as lasting, or as extensive as Pax Romana, the peace and predictability of Roman civilization. Inspecting the Roman soldiers now, we note the quiet authority of their presence, the polish of their person, the appropriateness of their stance-- they are spiffy. More than this, there is an esthetic to each gesture and accoutrement. All details have been considered-- ad unguem, as they would say, to the fingertip, as a sculptor tests the smoothness and perfection of his finished marble. Their hair is cut with a thought to the shape of the head, they are clean-shaven to show off the resoluteness of the jawline, their dress-- from their impregnable but shapely breastplates to their easy-- movement skirts— is designed with the form and movement of the body in mind, and their hard physiques recall the proportions of Greek statuary. Even the food in the mess is prepared to be not only savory to the taste but attractive to the eye. Just now the architriclinus -- the chef -- is beginning to prepare the carrots: he slices each piece lengthwise, then lengthwise again, to achieve slender, elongated triangles.

We look out across the river to the barbarian hosts, who in the slanting, gray light of winter mass like figures in a nightmare. Their hair (both of head and face) is uncut, vilely dressed with oil, braided into abhorrent shapes. Their bodies are distorted by ornament and discolored by paint. Some of the men are huge and muscular to the point of deformity, their legs wrapped comically in the garments called braccae— breeches. There is no discipline among them: they bellow at each other and race about in chaos. They are dirty, and they stink. A crone in a filthy blanket stirs a cauldron, slicing roots and bits of rancid meat into the concoction from time to time. She slices a carrot crosswise up its shaft, so that the circular pieces she cuts off float like foolish yellow eyes on the surface of her brew.

This unequal portrait of the two forces would not only have been the Roman view: it could almost have been the German view as well (for the milling hosts are of Germanic origin, as are all the intruders of this period). To the Romans, the German tribes were riffraff; to the Germans, the Roman side of the river was the place to be. The nearest we can come to understanding this divide may be the southern border of the United States. There the spit-and-polish troops are immigration police; the hordes, the Mexicans, Haitians, and other dispossessed peoples seeking illegal entry. The barbarian migration was not perceived as a threat by Romans, simply because it was a migration-- a year-in, year-out, raggle-taggle migration-- and not an organized, armed assault. It had, in fact, been going on for centuries. The Gauls had been the first barbarian invaders, hundreds of years before, and now Gaul lay at peace. The verses of its poets and the products of its vineyards were twin fountains of Roman inspiration. The Gauls had become more Roman than the Romans themselves. Why could not the same thing happen to these Vandals, Alans, and Sueves, now working themselves to a fever pitch on the far side of the river?

When, at last, the hapless Germans make their charge across the bridge of ice, it is head-on, without forethought or strategy. With preposterous courage they teem across the Rhine in convulsive waves, their principal weapon their own desperation. We get a sense of their numbers, as well as their desperation, in a single casualty count: the Vandals alone are thought to have lost twenty thousand men (not counting women and children) at the crossing. Despite their discipline, the Romans cannot hold back the Germanic sea.

From one perspective, at least, the Romans were overwhelmed by numbers-- not just in this encounter but during centuries of migrations across the porous borders of the empire. Sometimes the barbarians came in waves, though seldom as big as this one. More often they came in trickles: as craftsmen who sought honest employment, as warriors who enlisted with the Roman legions, as tribal chieftains who paid for land, as marauders who burned and looted and sometimes raped and murdered.

The End of the World

6 posted on 05/26/2006 4:03:55 PM PDT by Defiant (I was willing to fight to the death for George W. Bush, but not to America's death.)
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To: Uncledave

I'm not so sure it is intended to destroy conservatism as Rush says because to date all it has done is fire up conservatives as no issue has since 9/11.

I would agree that as a means of adding to the literally dying Democrat Party base there is no question of that. Americans know liberalism is a failure as seen by election results since 1968. So if you are the Democrats who are stuck at around 40% of the vote they can count on you go out and bring in new voters.

In this case illegal aliens who can only work at the "jobs Americans won't do" for a short period of time because of the physical demands of the jobs and denied the opportunity to assimilate as others have in the past they are left as dependents of the failed liberal welfare state. God help them.


7 posted on 05/26/2006 4:04:51 PM PDT by Patrick1
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It'll be about 10 minutes before the usual suspects show up on this thread calling Rush a deep cover DU plant who's just been waiting 18 years for his chance to destroy the Republican Party.

L

10 posted on 05/26/2006 4:08:11 PM PDT by Lurker (Real conservatives oppose the Presidents amnesty proposal. Help make sure it dies in the House.)
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BULLSEYE!


11 posted on 05/26/2006 4:09:40 PM PDT by AmeriBrit (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS A WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION, IT INCLUDES TERRORIST SLEEPER CELLS!!)
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This Amnesty Bill is a real boon for the Catholic Church. They are already out there signing up voters for the Dems.

That scraping sound you hear is the shyster "lawyer" lobby sharpening it's knives. Twenty million potential "discrimination" lawsuits. That is, until one of their buddies on the bench decides that it's "constitutional" for all of those who have been deported since 1776 are allowed to file lawsuits against the United States.

13 posted on 05/26/2006 4:10:28 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Mexico. The number one importer of "poverty" and crime to America.)
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"Senators McCain, Hagel, Graham, Martinez and Specter, were backslapping and thanking Senators Kennedy, Reid, and Durbin, congratulating each other over what a great thing they'd done with this immigration bill!"

Can't you just see this!

Thanks for posting Rush. I am so proud of him for standing up for what is right on this issue. I used to be afraid he would down play it out of loyalty to Bush.

Thank G-d for Rush!
19 posted on 05/26/2006 4:16:19 PM PDT by TSchmereL ("Rust but terrify.")
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To: Uncledave
Right On, Rush.

He's right on the money here. The house has to stand tall.

20 posted on 05/26/2006 4:16:25 PM PDT by meyer (A vote for amnesty is a vote against America.)
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Rush is only partially correct. This is really about setting up conditions for a Mexican, American, Canadian, state that will come into being over a period of time.


21 posted on 05/26/2006 4:19:33 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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I listened and I read the transcript. I am disappointed in Rush though. He is correct, but he entered the fray late. If only he had entered the fray two years ago. More people would be informed and the likelihood of the senate passing this sham would have been considerably less. I like Rush but I am disappointed in his two plus years absence while this battle brewed. I hope enough people in our nation can be informed now that Rush is on board, but Rush is late to the game therefore Rush may be of little consequence in this fight. I hope I'm wrong, because the citizens of this nation cannot afford to lose this fight. The war on terror is lost if we cannot protect our borders and decide who can be allowed to be in the nation at any point in time.
22 posted on 05/26/2006 4:20:50 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Make them legal one more time. Yes this plan will work. <sarcasm>)
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"three of the four Democrats who voted against the bill are up for reelection!"

"The Republicans up for reelection voted against the bill!"

Please help me! Which Republicans up for reelection voted against the bill? Don't tell me Rush means all of the Republicans up for reelection voted against it!!!

No F'n WAY!!!

Bush, the unpassionate conservative, may be a lame duck president and we might have the Conservatives in the House to thank for it.
23 posted on 05/26/2006 4:23:24 PM PDT by TSchmereL ("Rust but terrify.")
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Thank you for posting this. I was short handed at work today, do the holiday so I had to leave the radio off. I'm glad I was able to read it, sure wish I could have heard it.


24 posted on 05/26/2006 4:24:17 PM PDT by Kakaze (American: a Citizen of the United States of America........not just some resident of said continent)
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Guess what ended up in the bill? Just that: "Consultations between the United States and Mexican authorities at the federal, state, and local levels concerning the construction of additional fencing and related border security structures along the United States-Mexico border shall be undertaken prior to commencing any new construction." Before we can build a fence we've got to consult with Vicente Fox and the state governors, whatever they're called in Mexico and the local people on their side of the border in order to solicit the views of affected communities in Mexico to lessen tensions and foster greater understanding and stronger cooperation on this and other important issues of mutual concern. The Dodd amendment was included in a manager's amendment offered by Senator Specter which included several additional amendments. It was adopted by the Senate. So even the fence will have to essentially get the approval after consultation with officials throughout government layers in Mexico! Believe me, folks, this is not an immigration bill, and it never was.

Most of us here on FR already knew that. Some have their heads in the sand.

25 posted on 05/26/2006 4:24:32 PM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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Rush was the FIRST ONE to kiss Bush's ass in the 2000 primaries. He assured everyone that Bush was a conservative.

Is Limbaugh going to apologize?

27 posted on 05/26/2006 4:27:10 PM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: Uncledave

Rush is right BUMP


35 posted on 05/26/2006 4:32:58 PM PDT by B Knotts
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By moderate Republicans, let me give you some names: John McCain, Arlen Specter. We'd have to throw Senator Lindsey Graham in there now, and some of the Republicans in the administration, some of the Republicans in the White House. I think they have been steaming over the conservative wing taking over the Republican Party.

Notice how Rush fearlessly names the enemies of conservatism in the Senate, but neglects to name the "Republicans in the White House".

Hey Maharushi, how bout some names?

39 posted on 05/26/2006 4:39:55 PM PDT by Uncle Fud
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To: Uncledave

Bush is figuratively screwing his party and the country.

What I don't understand is, WHY?


47 posted on 05/26/2006 4:51:11 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To any apologist for the Senate or the administration THIS is your reality check. Read it and understand what is going on. If you still retain the garb of an apologist, then you are no conservative. You are the same wimp that supported Ford...Rockefeller...McCain...You are no ally to conservatism. You are its enemy.


49 posted on 05/26/2006 4:52:44 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Deport the United States Senate)
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To: Uncledave

I think Rush made an erroneous statement when he said: Republicans up for reelection voted "Nay."

Some Republicans who are up for reelection voted "Yea" for the "Amnsety Bill."

Chafee (R-RI), DeWine (R-OH), Lugar (R-IN), and Snowe (R-ME) are all up for reelection and voted "Yea."

Frist (R-TN) voted "Yea," but he is not up for reelection.

Most Republicans who are up for reelection voted "Nay."

Allen (R-VA), Burns (R-MT), Ensign (R-NV), Hatch (R-UT),
Hutchison (R-TX), Kyl (R-AZ), Lott (R-MS), Santorum (R-PA), Talent (R-MO), and Thomas (R-WY) are all up for reelection and voted "Nay."

Many Democrats up for reelection voted "Yea." Akaka (D-HI), Bingaman (D-NM), Cantwell (D-WA), Carper (D-DE), Clinton (D-NY), Conrad (D-ND), Dayton (D-MN), Feinstein (D-CA) and you can add Jumpin Jim Jeffords (I-VT), Kennedy (D-MA), Kohl (D-WI), Lieberman (D-CT), Menendez (D-NJ), Nelson (D-FL), Sarbanes (D-MD).

But some Democrats up for reelection voted "Nay."

Byrd (D-WV), Nelson (D-NE), and Stabenow (D-MI) are up for reelection and they voted "Nay."

Got that?

Good!

Call Rush on Monday and correct him.


51 posted on 05/26/2006 4:54:18 PM PDT by TSchmereL ("Rust but terrify.")
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