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To: cogitator

I am all for better environmental policies, however where we disagree is what we consider important environmental issues.

I for one don't see global warming as a human caused issue, I don't see it. CO2 is Plant Food.. more CO2 = more plants.. more plants = more food = more energy.

It is theory that CO2 helps retain heat that reaches the earth... Water Vapor in the upper atmosphere is also a huge factor in reflecting and retaining heat, and its easily observable... Clouds over the ground moderate temps... unclouded deserts heat up in the day and cool immensely at night.

I am all for reducing immissions in the general sense, just from a general health perspective... However to use fear mongering that we are going to destroy our planet? Please, that just doesn't fly.

Lets take the worst case scenario, the eart is in a warming trend, and its going to continue and global average temps will raise 1-2 degrees celcius. What does this really mean?

More fresh water will be available and not trapped in solid form... (not a bad thing).... milder winters and warmer summers... not exactly tragic. Latitudes closer to the equator will be warmer, but so too will latitudes closer to the poles allowing for larger areas of farming and argriculture... (in spite of all thsi global warming propoganda, there are still to this day parts of Canada that 40 years ago were farmable that are now tundra) Oceans rise a few inches...

More of the earths surface will be available for habitation, not only by humans but by other animals as well... please tell me how this is a bad thing? And that's assuming EVERYTHING they are claiming will happen will happen?

Will the eathe become unlivable? No.

Will our fresh water become poluted or run out? No.

Will the Water Cycle stop working? No.

Will agriculture cease to exist? No.

I am all for finding better alternatives to what we do now for energy.... but to lie and fearmonger to try to motivate it is nuts... to allow people to fearmonger to promote political not practical ends is rediculous.

The earth is a dynamic living system, it will adjust to anything we petty and pathetic humans could throw at it... Its the height of arrogance to think we are going to kill this planet. This planet will die, when the sun, running out of fuel begins to expand and burns the atmosphere off of it.. and not a minute before.


We burn more fossil fuels today thanks to enviroweenies that to sit back and then bitch about it is rediculous. We should be a primarily nuclear powered nation.. we aren't and not only are we not, we are burning home heating fuel to power electrical plants stupidy sucking more money out of the system just to appease folks for no practicle reason.

MTBE another mandated disaster by envirowackos has contaminated water supplies and will remain that way through our grandchildrens time!

The enviro movement is cluttered with disasters... Millions of people on this planet die every year because of lies and fearmongering over DDT.. and they claim that one as a "victory"....

Millions of acres of forests burned and people died because "envirowackos" decided controlled burns were bad for the environment...

etc etc etc...

Enviro activists that are honest to the cause are few and far between, outnumbered by loud mouth liars who don't give a damn about the environment or mans place in it.. just want to look at cute little animals... and ruining everything they touch with "good intentions"


133 posted on 05/25/2006 12:02:20 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay
HamiltonJay, if you don't mind, I'd like to defer a longer reply to this until tomorrow. You raise a lot of separate questions.

One thing for now.

More fresh water will be available and not trapped in solid form... (not a bad thing)....

Not necessarily. For quite a long time there has been a pretty good balance between glacial accretion and glacial melt, i.e., stable or slightly-growing glacial masses provided a constant (reliable) source of freshwater. There are a lot of people, globally, dependent on glaciers as a source of freshwater. Most mountain glaciers are receding (not all, but MOST) -- this trend could significantly diminish freshwater resources for a large percentage of the world's population. I think that this is one of the most significant current concerns of global warming, and in fact the CIA recognized water resources as having a very high likelihood of causing security instablity and conflict in their "Global Trends: 2015" report.

148 posted on 05/25/2006 12:29:47 PM PDT by cogitator
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