JD Hayworth, Mike Pence, Tom Tancredo,
True Conservatives! IMHO
HA! Someone's been reading my tagline.... ;)
susie
Hopefully, the house will put the Brakes to this plan ASAP!
Legal Definition;
amnesty n. a blanket abolition of an offense by the government, with the legal result that those charged or convicted have the charge or conviction wiped out. Examples: a) the amnesty given to Confederate officials and soldiers after the Civil War, or b) President Jimmy Carter's granting amnesty (under certain conditions) to those who violated the selective service act in evading the draft during the Vietnam War. The basis for amnesty is generally because the war or other conditions that made the acts criminal no longer exist or have faded in importance. Amnesty is not a pardon as some believe, since a pardon implies forgiveness, and amnesty indicates a reason to overlook or forget the offenses.
President Bush is just doing the job Americans won't do.
Well JD, just make sure you keep the steel in the spine of your fellow House memebrs, and not be hornswaggled by the Senate.
This is such a mess.
Of the 6.4 billion earthlings, about 4.8 billion exist below the Mexican standard of living.
If we want to "compassionate" and give US citizenship to people who "want to improved their lives", why not start with the poorest of the poor and work our way up?
I'm waiting for the story about the National Guard and how they are helping our BP people.
Still waiting..........
God, if it could only be so...
---Illegal aliens will have to “pay taxes”: That’s no penalty; they’re supposed to pay taxes. In fact, according the Sen. Chuck Grassley, under Bush’s plan illegals would have the option to only have to pay three of their last five years in back taxes.
They have to “keep their nose clean”: Big deal. So does everybody else.
They have to get a tamper-proof ID card: Oh, the humanity!
They’ll have to stay employed: But isn’t that why they came here, to do jobs Americans won’t?
They’ll have to learn English: That’s a benefit to the illegal.
Most of these “benchmarks” would be required of any legal immigrant. They are in no way burdensome, yet Tony Snow makes them sound almost oppressive.
The only real punishment on the entire list is the fine. Know what it is? A measly $2,000 payable in two $1,000 installments. When you consider what illegals get for their two grand, it’s the deal of a lifetime.---
We're supposed to believe that the government doesn't have the resources to enforce our laws, but that they'll enforce these conditions somehow. I think what outrages many of us more than anything is that they have the gall to peddle this crap.
The country has more important things to focus on. Tax cuts. Iraq. Iran. The 2006 elections. Jeb Bush's future. Phone records. Global warming. The rights of bicyclists.
A good read and true!
A wall.........ASAP.
Karl Rove and the President think that this Orwellian double-speak will be accepted by conservatives. They will be proven profoundly wrong.
from Congressional record 5/24/06 (there was some rebuttal saying illegals would pay taxes etc..Kennedy crap)
Mr. SESSIONS. Mr. President, according to the budget point of order the Senator from Colorado has raised, he will be focusing on, I believe, the second 10 years. The Congressional Budget Office has told us that the first 10 years are net losers. They say that direct spending in this bill authorizes $54 billion. There will be $66 billion in revenue, and discretionary spending will be $64 billion, for a net cost in the first 10 years of $52 billion. That is really significant. The numbers are far worse in the outyears.
Those of us who have watched this Congress operate over the years and have been in it a few years realize that we make some of our biggest mistakes when we jump into programs that sound good at the time and we have not calculated the long-term costs to our country, and we wake up wondering how it ever happened. Sometimes we need to go back to look at precisely how it occurred.
Robert Rector has done some serious number-crunching for the second 10 years. He was a chief architect of America’s welfare reform bill. He is a senior analyst at the Heritage Foundation, a very well respected group in town. These are some of the things he says about that. He believes—let me tell you—that the numbers could be $50 billion to $60 billion PER YEAR in the second decade. This is one of his quotes: In the long run, this bill, if enacted, would prove the largest expansion of Government welfare in 35 years.
The largest expansion of Government welfare in 35 years. He estimates that the bill’s provisions that put illegal aliens on a direct path to citizenship will result in $16 billion per year of net additional costs to the Federal Government for benefits given to the amnestied individuals alone. This is just the group that is in the first amnesty. This will be in the amnesty of those who are already here. That will cost $16 billion per year.
He also points out that the fiscal impact of the cost to the Treasury caused by the Senate bill will extend far beyond the benefits given to the individual aliens, those who are here seeking amnesty. Once those aliens receive legal permanent status—that is the green card, and that is what they will receive under the bill before us—they have an automatic guaranteed right to bring their spouses and minor children into the United States even if this had not been one of their strong desires to begin with. Now they have an automatic right to do this. So that will greatly expand the total number of people ultimately granted citizenship under this bill’s provisions. It is not just the people who are here. Undoubtedly, the welfare estimate of $16 billion per year will increase. That is a low estimate. Once an illegal alien becomes a citizen, they have an additional unrestricted right to bring their parents in. Many of these parents will be elderly and need medical care. The Heritage Foundation report points out that parents under the Medicare system could cost as much as $18,000 per person. They estimate that even if 10 percent of the people who are provided citizenship—we are talking about getting into the second 10 years because it will take about that long to go through the process of getting a green card under the restrictions of the bill and under their request for citizenship. You can bring your children and your wife with a green card. If you have a green card, you can bring them. If you become a citizen, you can bring your parents and your brothers and sisters, and they can bring their children. But he estimates that would be $30 billion a year in the outyears.
You say that cannot be. Well, all I know is Members of this body debated for years welfare reform. The people who opposed welfare reform and opposed it steadfastly—and President Clinton vetoed it several times—said it was going to increase poverty. The others argued: No, it will help lift people out of poverty. What has happened? Welfare rolls have dropped by more than 50 percent, and the number of children being raised in poverty is lower than it was at that time. Who said that would happen? Robert Rector at the Heritage Foundation. He was proven correct in that debate. I submit that he is one of the more brilliant students of public life today, of welfare and all of the related issues. He said it will be $50 billion to $60 billion a year in the next decade. That is a lot of money. That is really a lot of money. Over 10 years, that amounts to a half trillion dollars.
So we have to think about this. I suggest to my colleagues that we have not thought this through. We don’t even have an official CBO score on the second 10 years. We are asking the country, the American taxpayer, who lifts the burdens and pays our fat salary and takes care of us and everything else in this Federal Government, to just take a walk with us in the hope that something good might happen. I don’t think so.
more here, use next page bottom right to change pages.
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?position=all&page=S5081&dbname=2006_record
I'm against any amnesty too.
No amnesty for employers who have broken the law by hiring illegal immigrants.
No amnesty for cities or other councils who have provided services illegally
No amnesty for any citizen of the United States who has benefited from illegally hired labor through buying goods or services at lower prices.
At a minimum, severe fines and jail time for... well, the whole country. Why discriminate against some lawbreakers and not penalize ALL?
Or, we can be reasonable and make lemonade out of lemons.
best,
ampu
"President's Plan is an Illegal Immigrant Amnesty" )(Breathless wisdom from Wash. DC)
Gee, you think?
Next they will be advising us to shut off our lawnmowers before we clean under the decks:
"People who clean under their lawnmowers decks while the engine is running face risk of severe personal injury or death"