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GOP GETS ALIEN-ATED FROM PREZ (House Repubs dead-set against--legalization deemed political suicide)
NY POST ^ | 5/25/06 | DEBORAH ORIN

Posted on 05/25/2006 3:19:30 AM PDT by Liz

It's a good bet now that there won't be any law to legalize illegal aliens - at least before next fall's election. As many Republicans see it.....(the Senate) Democratic amnesty bill....would amount to political suicide..... House Republicans are dead-set against legalization, convinced that backing Bush's plan would so infuriate conservatives that they'd sit out the election and let Democrats win control of Congress.

The Senate can't pass the bill alone, so as long as the House holds firm, any compromise bill won't include legalization......

Karl Rove got an earful when he tried to persuade House Republicans yesterday - 19 of the 20 who spoke out said no way to legalization......"It was a very cool reception. No matter what the president and the Senate call it, people see it as amnesty," said House Homeland Security chairman Peter King (R-L.I.).....The White House claims voters want to get "something" done. House Republicans like King say their voters, by a 99-1 margin, would rather see nothing than allow an amnesty.

......House Republicans will be led by a very tough negotiator to try to reach a compromise deal - House Judiciary chairman James Sensenbrenner (R-Wis.) A tenacious, even truculent negotiator - he was a House impeachment manager against Bill Clinton..........

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
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To: ClaireSolt

I'm with you.


21 posted on 05/25/2006 4:08:14 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: tkathy

The will of the people, we the people...wow what a concept!
(s)

You mean not will of Fox pres of mexico? You mean not will of illegal invaders? (major(s) ;)

But seriously, the thought that Senators or House Rep with a (R) after their names would try to shove a disgusting bill at we the people was just to much to take, or the fact that they were voting and supporting the democrat liberals was not to be believed.

To give foreign national INVADER CRIMINALS welfare benefits, a check for $4,700, social security benefits and the entire country was just to much to take.

To continue to allow them to keep flooding in right now without lifting a finger, to not prosecute their employers?
They have to be kidding.

What part of NO amnesty is difficult for them to grasp?
Or maybe we are just being ignored. Maddening!

Lets hope that they will NEVER pass a bill they are planning to today but pass a bill like HR4437 instead! Why? Because it should be a felony to break into this country it is a felony in other countries. It should be a felony to HIRE them!

Don't give the employers who have already hired millions of the invaders a free pass!

There are way to many H1B Visa's out there already, but to allow millions more cheap labor illiterates is outrageous.

Have all 300 million American taxpaying citizen workers suddenly left the country????


22 posted on 05/25/2006 4:09:14 AM PDT by stopem (God Bless the U.S.A. and the Troops who protect her.)
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To: turbocat
I'm sorry.....but that is such convoluted thinking, it makes the head swim.

It may be true....(& sound good on some distant planet)...

...but for the here and now, it's not in our playbook!!!!

23 posted on 05/25/2006 4:11:02 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Liz
I just don't understand what the Senate is thinking. The American public has spoken loud and clear on this issue. The rank and file of both parties are on the same page here -- something that very rarely happens -- but they continue blissfully on, seemingly convinced that they know better than the voters what needs to be done.
24 posted on 05/25/2006 4:12:27 AM PDT by Ronin (Ut iusta esse, lex noblis severus necesse est.)
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To: Liz
"Karl Rove got an earful when he tried to persuade House Republicans yesterday - 19 of the 20 who spoke out said no way to legalization

It's about time they told Rove where to take his proposals.

To allow millions of invader aliens to steal our identitities and to get social security benefits while working here illegally and to give them all a check for $4,700 and to give them the farm is so outrageous it's something only a socialist, liberal democrat would do so why is Rove suggesting it?

Thank God literally that there are House Reps who are still conservative Republicans!! Thank you to them!!!! House Reps with a (R) you will have our total support and more importantly our votes.

25 posted on 05/25/2006 4:14:39 AM PDT by stopem (God Bless the U.S.A. and the Troops who protect her.)
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To: kittymyrib

We were gifted with a Democratic Republic. If our form of government were to be changed to a pure democracy, we would cease to exist. America is no longer GOD fearing enough, educated enough, savvy enough, and is far to corrupt with personal agendas to survive very long. No, our Founders were brilliant, and Americans today are NOT!

One only has to compare and contrast with the other governments on Earth to see, that even with ALL of our problems, we still have the best form of government on Earth today.

LLS


26 posted on 05/25/2006 4:19:35 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: Liz

Have you emailed or called (the latter being more effective) your senators today to tell them to vote NO on the Senate Amnesty Bill? If not, don't whine when it passes. Even if you have wastes of human skin like Kerry and Kennedy representing you, they need to here from you. And be sure to call it what it is, an AMNESTY BILL, because as Rush read on his show, it is in many sections a copy of the 1986 Amnesty Bill (Simpson-Mazoli)that got the invasion of the illegals rolling twenty years ago. They hate it when you know that.


27 posted on 05/25/2006 4:19:51 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: tkathy
Your insistence on a nation wide referendum is futile nonsense.
28 posted on 05/25/2006 4:20:14 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: kittymyrib

here=hear


29 posted on 05/25/2006 4:21:18 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Liz; All
Article: House Republicans like King say their voters, by a 99-1 margin, would rather see nothing than allow an amnesty.

Liz: Hooray, Freepers. We won bigtime. But keep up the pressure.

Wait, I'm confused. Doing nothing and maintaining the status quo is now victory? And here I thought this whole time that this issue was creating such a crisis that something, anything, needed to be done.

Of course this all hinges on whether or not one actually believes immigration -- even illegal immigration -- is a true crisis. Here's just one reason I'm not believing it.

30 posted on 05/25/2006 4:25:25 AM PDT by LowCountryJoe (I'm a Paleo-liberal: I believe in freedom; am socially independent and a borderline fiscal anarchist)
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To: Guenevere

He's a dedicated conservative doer---bless him.


31 posted on 05/25/2006 4:28:17 AM PDT by Liz (The US Constitution is intended to protect the people from the government.)
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To: Liz

Great news. And I think even a lot of Democrats will vote Republican after they see the voter registration drives that the Mexican lobby wages for this fall.

Many will start to see Dems as the party of Mexicans and Republicans as the party of Americans. I really think this can backfire on the Dems big time.


32 posted on 05/25/2006 4:30:28 AM PDT by Altair333 (Red Rover, Red Rover, Send Mexico Right Over)
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To: stopem
To allow millions of invader aliens to steal our identitities and to get social security benefits while working here illegally and to give them all a check for $4,700 and to give them the farm is so outrageous it's something only a socialist, liberal democrat would do ....

Amen.

33 posted on 05/25/2006 4:30:52 AM PDT by Liz (The US Constitution is intended to protect the people from the government.)
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To: sgtbono2002
Now you see the fallacy of having Senators elected only every 6 years. They feel they can do a thy like instead of the wishes of the people.

No. the fallacy is having them elected by popular vote instead of the state legislatures like the US Consitution origially intended. As it is now, just about all Senators are beholden to interst groups ourside their home state. (they get most of their money from groups outside their state). Originally the Senate was the check and balance for States rights. The check and balance for the people is the house.

34 posted on 05/25/2006 4:32:50 AM PDT by suijuris
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To: Guenevere
After I wrote the above, I read this thread from today about Fox's oppostion.

Take a read; it does make a lot of sense. here/>

35 posted on 05/25/2006 4:33:32 AM PDT by turbocat
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To: Liz
Thanks for posting this, Liz!

As many Republicans see it.....(the Senate) Democratic amnesty bill....would amount to political suicide

The Republican political calculus is correct. Suicide, truly.

36 posted on 05/25/2006 4:35:16 AM PDT by neutrino (Globalization is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.(173))
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To: HiJinx

ping


37 posted on 05/25/2006 4:37:48 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: Liz; Czar; Borax Queen; janetgreen; Smartass; devolve; potlatch
House Republicans like King say their voters, by a 99-1 margin, would rather see nothing than allow an amnesty.

Ping!

38 posted on 05/25/2006 4:38:22 AM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: LowCountryJoe
Doing nothing and maintaining the status quo is now victory?

Congress already DID something. It passed the United States Code. That's Congress' job.

It is NOT Congress' job to Take Care that the Laws Be Faithfully Executed.

39 posted on 05/25/2006 4:39:59 AM PDT by Jim Noble (And you know what I'm talkin' 'bout!)
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To: tkathy
"IMO Bush should halt all immigration and all citizenship, and call for a nation wide vote."


An understanding of the U.S.Constitution may help you understand exactly how our government is designed to work. You seem to have our representative form government confused with a democracy.


The Constitution of the United States



40 posted on 05/25/2006 4:40:18 AM PDT by G.Mason (And what is intelligence if not the craft of outthinking our adversaries?)
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