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To: coconutt2000
How many law enforcement officers will be needed to find, capture, detain, and deport 10-20 million illegal aliens?

You're really not very bright, are you. I posted 4 steps to deal with the demand side of the problem and you keep asking me about something which I never said.

I'm trying to get you to think as if you're President.

I did. I posted five things the legislature can do at little cost to the taxpayer. You're either unwilling or unable (that's the way I'm betting) to comprehend them.

with no responsibility for failure, abuse, morale, or cost.

My proposals will very nearly pay for themselves. As to abuse, what exactly do you mean? Who would do the abusing and whom would they abuse? Morale? Whose morale? We dealt with that 10 posts ago.

you're thinking like an armchair quarterback,

It doesn't seem to me that you're thinking at all.

L

117 posted on 05/25/2006 2:02:09 AM PDT by Lurker (Real conservatives oppose the Presidents amnesty proposal. Help make sure it dies in the House.)
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To: Lurker

You're delusional. None of your ideas will work without rigid and rigorous enforcement, including the finding, capture, detention, and deportation of illegals.

There's too much money involved that your ideas will only drive the problem further underground, increasing the criminal element, criminal violence, etc. And the only way to patch your failures would be to significantly increase the footprint of the Federal law enforcement agencies.

You may not see it that way, but that's what will happen. Take one look at the war on drugs, and multiply the problem a thousand times a thousand. And then throw in the fact that 1/5-1/3 of the American population will participate in obstructing your policies, further requiring an increase in law enforcement powers and intrusiveness to get past such obstruction.


119 posted on 05/25/2006 2:10:45 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Lurker

Do you really think that people here illegally will self deport? I ask this respectfully. I lived 10 miles from the border for 47 years. I see what's happening, and it's coming to a city near you. These people have their own communities. They can find work from those in their communities. They work out of thier cars. While some may send some money back to Mexico, I know that what alot do is use their money to buy whatever they need (tools, cleaning supplies, etc.) to become self sufficient and self employed. Who is going to go into latino communities and bust people for hiring illegals? Heck, I can't tell who is one, and I'm scared that if I was to ask, I'd have some kind of lawsuit brought against me. Are we going to have ICE walking into Juan's tortilleria and bust Juan?
The latest thing I've noticed is that people that may or may not be illegals are buying condos and houses, and living with more than one family. Instead of or in addition to sending money to Mexico, they are working on the homes, with help from their buddies, to increase the value so that they can sell it, pocket the profit, and do it again. In fact, you can't even tell if the realtors are here legally down here in San Diego now. If you go to http://www.dre.ca.gov/relaw_pdf/Regs.pdf and scroll down a few pages in the Regulations of the Real Estate Commissioner (California) you will find that the biggest section in the regulations deals with granting special considerations to aliens.
These people only work in the low paying jobs until they can move up, and I just find it hard to believe, in my experience, that these people will self deport, especially when just collecting aluminum cans or selling drugs will make them more money than they could make in their homeland. I seriously want border enforcement, and something done to save American jobs for Americans, but I just can't see this self deporting thing working, even as much as I'd like to see it happen. Again, I am asking this in a respectful manner, and wanted to know your thoughts.


120 posted on 05/25/2006 2:18:09 AM PDT by cabojoe
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