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To: coconutt2000
You must be a Senator.

Do you understand the concept of 'enforcement' at all? If an employer is caught employing illegals, the fines and prison time come to bear. We have people who do that sort of work. They're called 'policemen'. Do they have them where you live?

Fine. This is an easy one, but it won't stop the human smuggling.

Wanna bet? Would you put someone in the trunk of your car if you knew you'd be facing a 25 year stretch at the Graybar Hotel?

How do you propose to distinguish between legitimate money transfers

I don't propose to attempt any such thing. I said 'all'. I meant 'all'.

Re: Step 4.: How do you plan on enforcing this rigorously enough to make a difference?

See Step One. Spot inspections on employers by those funny people called 'policemen' I mentioned above. If you want to get really specific about them it's the INS who enforces those laws. I'd have them do it.

Re: Step 5: Simple enough, but it won't deter the professional criminals. Increasing punishment doesn't do much for curbing crime if there's no provision for catching them.

Once again for the comprehension impaired; it's called 'law enforcement' for a reason. We have people who do this sort of thing for a living. We manage to break up drug rings, car theft rings, burglary rings, prostution rings, and put mafiosos into prison. I think our LE folks can handle document forgers.

I'll admit, I didn't read your post before replying last time

Then why on Earth did you waste my time with an insipid response without even bothering to read what I wrote? What motivates that kind of thing? Then you toss out this canard:

you need to address how you're going to increase enforcement capability while respecting the rights of citizens, the Constitution, and the statutory laws of the land, Federal and State.

Good Heavens I thought lead was dense....

What part of my proposal do you think is un-Constitutional? How do any of them fail to respect the rights of law abiding citizens? Which of them conflicts with existing Federal Laws? Why am I even bothering to converse with someone who admits he didn't even read my original post?

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110 posted on 05/25/2006 1:10:39 AM PDT by Lurker (Real conservatives oppose the Presidents amnesty proposal. Help make sure it dies in the House.)
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To: Lurker

You still refuse to propose how you intend to enforce these ideas.

You seem oblivious of the fact that such enforcement will require increasing Federal law enforcement personnel, capabilities, and intrusiveness.

I want to know how you're going to do so without creating an oppressive environment in which to live.

Remember, there are somewhere between 10-20 million illegals in our country. Tell me how you're going to track them, find them, catch them, detain them, and deport them. All of them.

As for confiscating or taxing at a rate of 100% all money transfers to countries south of the Rio Grande... Are you sure you're a conservative? That sounds like legitimized highway robbery, and such a policy would only force the money into criminal hands for transfer out of the country, thus pumping more money into the underground, criminal economy. Plus, what about American citizens and legal residents who want to send money to relatives in those countries?


112 posted on 05/25/2006 1:21:54 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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