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Carter praises Bush's immigration stance
AP on Yahoo ^ | 5/24/06 | Doug Gross - ap

Posted on 05/24/2006 10:23:25 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

ATLANTA - Former president Carter, a Democrat and frequent critic of President Bush, sees eye-to-eye with him on immigration.

Carter on Wednesday called the Republican president's commitment to immigration reform "quite admirable," saying he agrees with Bush's support of a system that would eventually grant citizenship to some illegals.

The Senate is set to vote as early as Thursday on a bill that calls for tougher border security as well as an eventual chance at citizenship for millions of men and women in the country illegally.

The law should secure the nation's borders while "at the same time treating those who are here with respect and giving them some hope for the future," Carter said.

The Senate plan, which closely mirrors Bush's own proposal, faces an uncertain fate in the House, where representatives have passed legislation that would expose all illegal immigrants to felony charges.

Carter spoke at the close of a three-day forum of international human rights workers at The Carter Center in Atlanta. Human rights activists from 22 countries attended the forum.

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The Carter Center: http://www.cartercenter.org


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; bushbotslovejimmy; carter; jimmuh; jimmycarter; nailincoffin; praises; stance; uhoh
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To: NormsRevenge

If Jimmy Carter thinks this is a good plan .. that should scare the heck out of people!


21 posted on 05/24/2006 10:39:45 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-by Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: econjack

I was talking to a real estate manager from San Diego on the plane today... she told me that fraudulent IDs are plentiful and if you check them out and they come up valid, you get punished.

I am not sure how that works, but if that is the story she has been told, someone is putting it out.


22 posted on 05/24/2006 10:39:47 PM PDT by Paloma_55 (Still MAD as HELL!!!)
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To: CyberAnt
If Jimmy Carter thinks this is a good plan .. that should scare the heck out of people!

Gee, do you think that may be EXACTLLY why Jimmah is supporting it? Ya'll are a bunch of sheeple being led around by the nose.

23 posted on 05/24/2006 10:42:33 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Paloma_55

Oh great...I wonder what genius decided that was a good idea?


24 posted on 05/24/2006 10:43:52 PM PDT by econjack
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To: Lurker

I wouldn't doubt the numbers of 1-2 million...some in prison and others just under different identities.


25 posted on 05/24/2006 10:44:21 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (Look at profile for current ways to deal with illegals immigration)
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To: Paloma_55

If what she said is true then that is obviously a policy designed to specifically avoid illegals by not checking.


26 posted on 05/24/2006 10:44:54 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: coconutt2000
Actually it is.

Any person who violates our border a second time is guilty of a felony.

Any person who traffics in or possesses fraudulent documents is guilty of a felony.

Any person who conspires with another person to violate our borders is guilty of a felony.

Any person who presents a fraudulent document to obtain employment is guilty of a felony.

Any person who presents a fraudulent document to obtain any government benefit is guilty of a felony.

Any person who obtains a DL fraudulently is guilty of a felony., at least in my State.

I'd say that covers about 80% of them.

L

27 posted on 05/24/2006 10:45:13 PM PDT by Lurker (Real conservatives oppose the Presidents amnesty proposal. Help make sure it dies in the House.)
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To: NormsRevenge

It was only a matter of time. An amnesty program written by Carter could not be much worse.


28 posted on 05/24/2006 10:45:41 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Texasforever

"Oh for God's sake. The democrats have learned that all it takes to drive the "right" into anti-Bush rants is for the most liberal idiots on the planet to say they agree with Bush. I am amazed at how "true conservatives" are no different from Pavlov's dogs. Pathetic."

Did it ever dawn on you that Carter said this because he believes it? He's a total liberal after all, and loves the idea of all those illegal immigrants and their eventual Dem votes coming into his vision of a utopian USA, a politically correct, multicultural country, where Whitey is in the eventual minority. This is typical Carter. What isn't typical is our President adopting a stance towards illegal immigration that Carter would be in total agreement with. That's what is horrifying here. It shows just how far our President has veered into the enemy's camp, philosophically speaking. It's ghastly.

From reading your past comments, you always paint the portrait in terms of political tactics rather than political philosophy. This isn't some cabal by the liberals to make Bush do what he is doing. He is doing what he is doing because he wants to do it. He wants amnesty for illegal immigrants, just as Carter does, but you can't face that reality, so you try to change the terms of the debate. It's the devil (Dems) that made him do it. But it won't work, as any discerning conservative who reads your comments will soon ascertain. You are too easily seen through in your diversionary tactics.


29 posted on 05/24/2006 10:45:58 PM PDT by flaglady47
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To: Slings and Arrows
This is not good.

Kiss. Of. Death.
30 posted on 05/24/2006 10:46:19 PM PDT by Zarro (We Support Governor Rossi)
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To: Lurker

YEs yes and yes...It's a felony to use someone else's Social Security number or to deliberately provide false information to the Social Security Administration ...

But under Bush and the Senate bill, these felons will given amnesty and they will be allowed to collect social security on top of that,

Those whom say we cant make these people felony refuse to realize that a great many already are. and just erasing the law doesn't help society rid itself of dishonesty and the lack of respect for the rule of law.

And speaking of dishonesty , it is intellectually dishonest for people to keep pointing the talking point that we cant deal with large numbers of felons, so the reality is we have to erase these laws because thats the only way to fix with this,bla bla... but this is hog wash,

we dont have to arrest every one who speeds, or who doesn't pay taxes, people know that some laws our adhered to by good faith, that by random checks they will get caught. All we need to do is make an example of a few of the most visible cheaters, and the rest will be running scared to make sure they keep their visa and passports up to date, just like every other person has to do when visiting any other country on this planet!


32 posted on 05/24/2006 10:48:48 PM PDT by seastay
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To: NormsRevenge
This is surpassing the Harriet Miers debacle as President Bush's worst political mistake. The fact that many members of Congress are up for reelection, may save his bacon from this terrible blunder.
33 posted on 05/24/2006 10:49:09 PM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Jesus always reads His knee-mail. (Hall of Fame Hit-N-Run poster))
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To: NormsRevenge

That's just terrible...I have nothing else I can say.


34 posted on 05/24/2006 10:52:11 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (Look at profile for current ways to deal with illegals immigration)
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To: flaglady47
Did it ever dawn on you that Carter said this because he believes it?

No. He, being the snake he is, believes that if he can drive that wedge just a little bit farther then he can unseat a man he hates even more than you do. You and yours hate Bush so much all critical thinking skills you may have once had are gone. Ya'll are no different than John Conyers, Jimmy Carter, Howard Dean and the Dixie Chicks. No, you are different in that you are more than willing to to be the useful idiots in their transparent effort to use your hate to achieve their goals.

35 posted on 05/24/2006 10:53:22 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: coconutt2000

"It is also about security. Turning 10-20 million illegals into felons would be very bad for our security, and probably chase a lot of hispanics into the open arms of socialist revolutionaries, and islamic jihadists."

That's called appeasement.


36 posted on 05/24/2006 10:53:43 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (If your ship hasn't come in it's probably because the Captain is drunk.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Another MSM story specifically designed to split Republicans prior to the '06 elections. They've become easy to spot.
37 posted on 05/24/2006 10:54:09 PM PDT by JennysCool (Auxiliary Member of the Anaheim Azusa and Cucamonga Sewing Circle Book Review and Timing Association)
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To: Texasforever

Excuse me ..?? Ya'll better step back and take a deep breath - you have no idea who I am or what I believe.

And .. Jimmah is not smart enough to be that clever. Besides .. people all over this website have been upset with Bush over his "plan" .. and if Jimmah likes it - then I'm even more certain it's not a good plan.

I'm not a "sheeple" and I resent your calling me names. If you have a valid point to make - MAKE IT - otherwise drop the name calling.


38 posted on 05/24/2006 10:54:10 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-by Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: NormsRevenge

That's scary; being endorsed by Jimmah Cahtah.

Hey Jimmay; SHUT UP!


39 posted on 05/24/2006 10:54:52 PM PDT by no dems (I guess I'm a "Johnny one-note" type voter, but I'll keep singing out against abortion.)
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To: Texasforever
I think you're a bit late on your meds.

L

40 posted on 05/24/2006 10:56:34 PM PDT by Lurker (Real conservatives oppose the Presidents amnesty proposal. Help make sure it dies in the House.)
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