Posted on 05/24/2006 7:16:58 PM PDT by kellynla
I cannot post the article. Here is the link http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-1823925.php
Don't know if is STILL the case but Time has HAD reporters embedded with the Iraqi "imsurgents" since before the capture of Saddam.
There was an episode of Frontline about it. Wonder how much "interviewing the enemy" was a part of that 10-week investigation.
Another thing visible in that Frontline episode were "civilians" (like women) who were quite aware of the insurgents presence shelling US troops yet they expressed no concern for their own safety in the event of any return fire.
At what point are the Iraqis harboring and shielding insurgents (who also fight against Iraqis)? Pick a side and stick with. They can't pretend they are Swiss.
Attacking "civillians". Who is the army of the insurgency?
Certainly more than just Iraqis. What flag do they fly under? What is their uniform? Who is a civilian? Who is a soldier? Who harbors the soldiers?
Can we prosecute the insurgents for war crimes kidnapping civilians and beheading them on video? Remember the rotten things the other side is doing to civilians? Two wrongs don't make a right but ALL criticism strictly goes against America's troops in this war. And that is dishonest.
ok, for a discussion forum like FR, what would constitute a permissible discussion of the implications of there actually being a real problem here with the incident in question?
Can you imagine? One of your buddies has just been blown up and you're getting catcalls from some nearby shack, maybe a little small arms fire. I'd go ballistic, too. We'd better get our heads out of our nether regions and get serious about supporting our troops if we want to win this clash of civilizations. WWI and WWII were nothing compared to what's coming in this war. Illegal combatants and animals get no protection from the Geneva Conventions and the brass's rules of engagement damned well ought to reflect that reality.
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In cold blood
Town Hall ^ | 5-25-06 | W. Thomas Smith, Jr. OP/ED
My grandfather was a Marine in the Pacific in WW2. He spoke from time to time about people needing "Guadalcanal Justice."
I don't think we really know what happened yet, except for what Mu'tha has so gleefully provided. He's acting as witness, judge, jury, and executioner. As an EX-Marine who has voluntarily EX-communicated himself from his brothers, he's got too big a smile on his face. You can even hear it in his voice.
I'd sooner believe Baghdad Bob than Mu'tha.
Hunter was matter-of-fact about the reports’ contents.
“It is not good,” he said. “Let the chips fall where they may.”
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Mr. Hunter is no lefty, either. He served in the Vietnam War in the 173rd Airborne Brigade and the 75th Army Rangers. His son is a First Lieutenant in the Marine Corps, and was deployed to Iraq in 2003.
A lot different than the lurid tale of Marines going into homes and killing 20+ civilians as has been reported in the terrorist press feed and by Murtha.
the truth, the whole truth, may never come out, to be sure...
let justice be done... in courts martial, whether it exonerates or convicts... I pray for the former...
Mu'tha is not worthy of my comment...
And what good will congressional hearings do while the incident is still in-process within the military justice system? Are they expecting the UCMJ process to "fail", and the need hearings while these men are still trying to defend themselves against their own government?
If these "hearings" are investigating the same incident, without waiting for the established procedure of getting the military report first, it's just a form of double jeopardy for the Marines accused. They could be spending a couple of years going through the UCMJ, and yet there will be "findings" from some politicians already hanging over their heads.
If I was Hunter, the only "hearings" I'd have would be with Mu'tha, to ask why he, as a mere politician, is injecting himself into business that rightly does not yet, and may never, concern congress. All the high-profile hearings I've seen so far are so infested with clintonoids that they've become the American equivalent of soviet show trials.
In today's world, I'd take the UCMJ over congressional hearings any day. At this point, congress is fishing, and Mu'tha wants a lynching.
srry i wuz p#ssed
But this is a war, not a law enforcement sojourn. If we needed cops we'd have sent cops, not Marines, Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen.
We could execute them all, and the anti American left would not miss a beat. Hanging them out to dry worked so well in regards to similar events in Vietnam, didn't it?
The circumstances on the ground are somewhat similar, if anything they are worse. If the Marines too fire from the buildings after the IED explosion, they could have leveled the thing, killing everyone inside, and it would have been within the accepted laws of war. The responsibility for the deaths and injuries to non combatants lies at the feet of those who use them as shields, which is a very common tactic of the big brave Jihadies, in Iraq, in Israel, and elsewhere.
Pathetic isn't it? The next time the harping begins as to why the military are not meeting their goals, your statement should be injected.
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