Pope's warning (to Canada)

Calsun ^ | May 24, 2006 | ROY CLANCY

[From many - one.]

Then I wasn't clear.

It was Pope John Paul II, not Benedict who spoke to Italians.

[thinking]

"be fruitful and multiply"?...interesting comment...I guess the Citizens of Rome, Chief Officers', are not adhering to the teaching's of Jesus, as they are not procreating...

[From many - one.]

Look, I believe in large families, but I also believe in not arguing with facts.


I see no current equation between large families and virtuous social patterns. Right now, I see the opposite occuring in many locations. (hopefully as a temporary phenomenon).

My interest in the subject is from a rather odd perspective: decades ago I read an article in a science fiction magazine that predicted two things would happen by 2011...a population decline and the ability to keep humans alive indefintely. It was all based on some mathematical theory or the other and durned if it doesn't seem to be working out that way.

[TomB]

So what does this comment you made mean?

I would respectfully suggest that chastising Canadians when he is not persuasive in his own backyard is counterproductuve.

Who are you talking about and what is counterproductive?

And Benedict has spoken about low birthrates in Europe, shall I post some links?

[thinking]

Yes...a great post....the bottom line here is, feminism has destroyed(nearly)the Caucasian race.... the tribe with the most babies; wins

[NYer]

Why single out Canada?

The Canadian bishops are making their ad Limina visit to the Vatican this week. The pope was addressing them on the state of their country.

[From many - one.]

Means what it says.

Europe is not the same as Italy, despite the EU.

For large scale situations, figuring out the source of the problem is geneally more productive than railing against it.

[Antoninus]

New figures by Statistics Canada project there'll be more seniors over age 65 than children under 15 by 2015. By 2031, the number of seniors could be double the number of children.

These are scary stats coming from a country as important to the US as Canada.

A society that doesn't reproduce is sick, by definition. It's not just Canada. Western civilization is sick. Hopefully, the illness isn't mortal.

[Antoninus]

Why single out Canada?

He's not. He's hit all the other countries you mentioned. Guess you weren't paying attention.

The fact is, Canada has the same illness that the others do, even if it's not in as advanced a stage. Better to nip it in the bud now, than to wait, don't you think?

[Antoninus]

Because it's embarrassing to admit that Roman Catholic Italy has one of the lowest birthrates in Europe?

Were you born yesterday? Benedict has been lambasting Italy on this issue since his pontificate began.

[Ultra Sonic 007]

Canada ping.

[Antoninus]

Isa 13:17 Behold, I will stir up the Medes against them, which shall not regard silver; and [as for] gold, they shall not delight in it.

Uh, you know who the Medes were, right? The Persians--i.e., the Iranians. And you know the site of ancient Babylon is currently in --- Iraq.

Hmmmm. Maybe the prophecy actually says more than the poster originally thought....

[Antoninus]

I'd love to have children if it weren't for the fact that every Canadian woman I've dated over the last 2 years weren't a hardcore pro-abortion feminist or turned out to be messed up on drugs.

Use a Catholic matchmaker service on the internet. I did it as a lark 8 years ago and now I'm very happily married with four kiddies.

If you're expecting to meet the girl of your dreams at a bar, you're wasting your time.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Oh! That's what I get for not reading what I google!

Anyhow, all of Europe is below ZPG--- formerly-Catholic, formerly-Protestant, and formerly-Orthodox Europe --- and so are Canada and the USA if you don't count immigrants and the first-generation children of immigrants.

Most common male baby name in Hamburg: Mohammad.

[TomB]

Means what it says.

OK, not much.

Europe is not the same as Italy, despite the EU.

Huh? Last time I checked, Italy is part of Europe.

For large scale situations, figuring out the source of the problem is geneally more productive than railing against it.

And he is speaking directly to what he thinks is the source of the problem. He isn't just bitching that birth rates are too low, he has his own ideas what is causing it and is urging the bishops to speak out about it.

Did you even read the post?

[weegee]

Pychologisists with psychosis are not in a better position to make such judgements.

[TomB]

Pychologisists with psychosis are not in a better position to make such judgements.

Yea, and?

Go back and read what I wrote. Someone was saying the Pope had no standing to pontificate about marriage and birth rates since he was celibate. That is a moronic charge. Hence my comparing what they said to a psychiatrist.

[RightWhale]

It wouldn't be wise to antagonize Canada. Canada could build nuke weapons even before Iran. Canada could also build aircraft carriers and nuke bombers even before France. That Canada is not a space power on their own is merely because they have chosen to cooperate with NASA and ESA. There is a superpower lurking up there in the Great White North that could be real anytime they want.