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Putin's hard line echoes shadowy lobby group
Globe and Mail ^ | 05/23/2006 | GRAEME SMITH

Posted on 05/23/2006 11:34:06 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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To: Romanov

"that reveal that Yushenko's 19 year old son drives an (unmarked) $120,000 BMW M6, carries a $43,000 Vertu cell phone, lives in a ridiculously expensive apartment, regularly goes clubbing and goes through $1000 bottles of Cristal, "

He is a very successful marketing professional, but your numbers are wildly inflated - the BMW was used when he leased it and there is no cell phone or Cristal in the world that expensive.

Incidentally, this is the same son who was nearly assassinated TWICE by RUSSIAN SCUM that tried to kill his father.


81 posted on 05/24/2006 6:08:09 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: spanalot

"He is a very successful marketing professional, but your numbers are wildly inflated - the BMW was used when he leased it and there is no cell phone or Cristal in the world that expensive."

BAHAHAHAHAHA That is HILARIOUS. You don't actually believe what you write, do you?

"Incidentally, this is the same son who was nearly assassinated TWICE by RUSSIAN SCUM that tried to kill his father."

Oh yah? How about a link to some legitimate sources with that information? What's that you say? You can't provide the info? Oh, that's right.


82 posted on 05/24/2006 6:09:41 PM PDT by Romanov
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To: spanalot

Vertu cell phones (one of their models): "USD 88,300 Vertu cell phone that features eight carats worth of pavé set diamonds)

Kristal: Roederer Cristal Rose-Limited 750ml 1999 $1100

The ultimate imported French Champagne. For connoisseurs the world over, there is nothing finer. Aromatic, with mid-palate richness as well as density to the honey and white chocolate flavors. The overall impression is a tightly wound Champagne, with very good concentration and length.


Yushenko's son claimed it was his "friend's car" - his dad said he leased it. No 19 year old in the WORLD has a part-time consulting job that earns that much money. Unless, of course, his dad is a corrupt president.


83 posted on 05/24/2006 6:16:17 PM PDT by Romanov
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To: x5452
"Imagine going to the first church in America (Kosovo was the religious center of Serbia before Muslims invaded), and seeing it taken over by Satanists who kill Christians for sport."

Well stated and I fully agree. You are correct Kosovo was part of the Serbian Empire up until 1389 when the invading Ottoman horde forced many of the population to 'submit' or be put to the Islamic sword.

"And the west is making sure that he Muslims in Kosovo have no problems when the blow up the remaining churches, and behead the remaining Christans."

I know. In terms of Iranian Revolutionary Guards (killers) exported by oil rich OPEC's Iran, to incite the Yugoslavian Muslim to fanaticism during the continuing WWII Yugoslav wars of the 1990's and still smoldering, do not forget Russia, although interlinked ethnically and religiously with the Serbs continued supplying Arabs nations which in turn were supporting 'jihad' in the former Yugoslavia.

All sides in Yugoslavia committed unspeakable war crimes during the worst of the various slaughters from the Balkans wars, WWI, WWII through the 1990's. Nobody had clean hands - nobody.

Today Putin is the best friend to the most vial of the Islamic murderers in Iran, Syria and their jihadic proxies in the likes of Hizballah and Hamas.

"We cannot mount a complaint against foreign governments attitudes towards islamic terror when we aid it in some cases ourselves. It's blatant hypocrisy and hypocrisy makes no allies."

As Americans it is our duty support our own nation against all enemies both foreign and domestic. When our own elected leaders coupled with the unelected political hacks at the State Department commit grievous acts of openly siding with the Islamic enemy as was the case in Kosovo and Bosnia knowing hardcore jihadists had made substantial inroads among the population, it is also our duty not to remain silent.

The former Yugoslavia remains a tinder box with a short fuse.

The Serbs had Russian mercenaries fighting on their side. What if the Serbs had one under the remaining communist tyrant in southern Europe, Moscow would have regained more influence in an area they did not fully control in post WWII European in part due to communist Tito playing his version of the maverick. Imported Islamic savages or Putin's Russian moles with key footholds in the Balkans. What a choice...

In relation to Putin, the Trans-Caucusus' are boiling over with Islamic madness, in part due to Moscow's historical viciousness which has an elongated dark history of brutality towards the non Russian native population. While on the other hand Putin arms Iran with all the military hardware to kill Americans and Israels in the upcoming showdown. Putin is arming dictator Assad's Syria who arms Hizballah. Putin was arming Saddam right up until we began the ground war to take out his brutal Ba'athist pro-Soviet régime Talk about hypocrisy, that sly KGB fox may have fooled some on the Hill, the E.U. & beyond, but in the real world Putin is just as much an enemy of freedom as the crazed jihad-o-holics he supplies with advanced weaponry, the same ones which have sworn to wipe US off the map along with Western civilization, only if we appease the enemy though our inactions.

In the end we will have to fight Iran and the Russians - sooner or later.

84 posted on 05/25/2006 3:59:26 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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I think that depends a lot on when we need to fight China.

I would expect China to attack the Russians first (they have much needed oil, and easy to expand to space to the north), and I don't imagine we'd turn a blind eye to China invading Russia...


85 posted on 05/25/2006 6:25:23 AM PDT by x5452
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To: M. Espinola

"All sides in Yugoslavia committed unspeakable war crimes during the worst of the various slaughters from the Balkans wars, WWI, WWII through the 1990's. Nobody had clean hands - nobody."

Well stated.


86 posted on 05/25/2006 10:03:55 AM PDT by Romanov
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To: Paul Ross

In terms of IRBM cheating, here is something to ponder. The typical Chinese, Paksitani or soon to be, Iranian TEL deployed IRBM could easily roll onto any number of "former Red Air Force" transports now in the command of Victor Bout. So let us suppose that, one fine morning, that is exactly what happens. The planes then fly to somewhere such as, oh, lets say, Kaliningrad, or the eastern tip of Siberia, or perhaps, the edge of the Crimean Penninsula. I cannot think of a more dashing way to break the INF with sudden wild abandon. Perhaps, the first hint of the treaty's demise would be missiles in the air. Given our performance on 9/11, I must seriously wonder, how, in reality, NORAD and NATO would actually respond. How long would it take them to move from being dumbfounded dip@&@&$ to being strategic nuclear defenders? Consider the flight times, given the scenario I've set forth. QUICK! HEADS UP! DECIDE NOW!


87 posted on 05/25/2006 7:09:49 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: x5452
What you stated concerning Red China is indeed food for thought. The West is feeding the Chicom military machine every time we purchase anything stamped "Made in China".
88 posted on 05/26/2006 12:37:55 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: Romanov
"Well stated."

Thank you Sir.

89 posted on 05/26/2006 12:44:13 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: M. Espinola

And Russia is dancing with a Tiger on that too.

China needs lots of oil and gas.

Siberia has lots of oil and gas.

Russia has practically no one living in Siber.

China has excess folks to put there.

China will strike one day, and they'll want resources up front of other aquisitions, no help feed their military for future endeavors.


90 posted on 05/26/2006 1:17:53 PM PDT by x5452
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To: x5452
That's true too. We need to watch both Putin's Russia and Red China.
91 posted on 05/26/2006 1:19:49 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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