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To: mark502inf; Lion in Winter; FormerLib
[Kosovo was NEVER separate form Serbia] Uh, except for the five centuries from the 1400s until Serbia invaded and conquered it in 1912 as part of the First Balkan War

The liberary would have told you that the Serbs were driven out of Kosovo at the end of the 17th century (1690) and that Patriarch Arseniye III (Charnoyevich) lead them to Voyvodina. The Serbs sided with Austrians in one of the three Austro-Turkish wars and were abandoned by the Austrians when the war fortune turned against them.

The Turks then decimated (literaly) Serbs across the area and caused them to leave en masse. The care taking of the Serbian Orthodoxy was taken over by the Montenegrin princes.

The Serbs were driven from their homeland. The Albaninas filled the vacuum. By your "logic" the Jews must not have the right to their state of Israel (historical reasons) either, if you believe that the Serbs "invaded" Kosovo after WWI (which was actually in 1913, after the First Balkan War -- I guess you didn't go to the library after all, did you?). If you think the Jews invaded Palestine without any cause than I would say the Serbs invaded Kosovo without any cause in 1913.

When the Serbs moved into that area in the 7th century, they didn't expel anyone or fight with anyone that I know of. It is therefore their homeland. Just as in the case of Israel, do you think that Arab numbers alone will determine if Israel has the right to exist or not? And one day there will be more Arabas in Israel then Jews.

What will the international community say then? Clearly, you and the rest of the international community are practicing double standards.

You favor integration in Bosnia at all cost, forcing people who don't want to live together to live together so that the Bosnian Muslims can have their country; yet when it comes to Kosovo, you favor disintegration. The only common denominator in both cases is the anti-Serb bias.

So, what else is new?

31 posted on 05/23/2006 2:13:23 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50

BRAVO!! BRAVO!!!


32 posted on 05/23/2006 2:17:55 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (islamics are not religious, just set on on mass murder of non-muslims!!)
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To: kosta50
Kosta, you are correct in that the major population shift occurred in Kosovo in the 1600-1700s after failed revolts against the Ottomans; as exemplified by the Serb Great Migaration at the end of the 17th Century. Partly as a result of that population movement, generation after generation of Albanians has lived in Kosovo for the last several hundred years and--as the Library of Congress Country study says--Albanians "have constituted the vast majority of Kosovo's population since at least the eighteenth century."

In any case, for obvious reasons, arguments for sovereignty based on who lived somewhere hundreds of years ago are not valid. The problem Serbs have with Kosovo is the illegitimacy of an oppressive government. As Senator Jesse Helms said in his speech to the United Nations:

But nations derive their sovereignty – their legitimacy – from the consent of the governed. Thus, it follows, that nations can lose their legitimacy when they rule without the consent of the governed; they deservedly discard their sovereignty by brutally oppressing their people. Slobodan Milosevic cannot claim sovereignty over Kosovo when he has murdered Kosovars and piled their bodies into mass graves.

And therein lies the crux of the argument for Kosovo independence, not Albanian demographics or ancient Serb claims.

43 posted on 05/23/2006 7:41:48 PM PDT by mark502inf
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To: kosta50

He IS a mussie apologist!! WHAT do you expect from him?? Sense???


47 posted on 05/23/2006 7:55:49 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (islamics are not religious, just set on on mass murder of non-muslims!!)
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