As an aside, despite your curious responses to my post, I continue to give substantial credence to your posts that seem to reflect actual knowledge of the difficulties of mountain climbing and the tough decisions one must make in life and death situations. However, I do not feel that trying to save a life or getting to the top of a mountain is a "life and death" situation. A life or death situation is "can we get down while trying to save this guy's life". It's not, well, I hope you can see.