[Wonder Warthog]

"I don't like the Senate plan, but I do believe there is a subset of illegal immigrants (having NOTHING to do with "years of illegality") that are truly beneficial, truly want to be a part of our NATION, not just leaches, and we should separate them out and make them the first of the illegals to get visas."

ANY alien here illegally has BY DEFINITION engaged in multiple forms of fraud--so they most definitely HAVE engaged in "years of illegality". Deport them all, and make them go to the tail end of the line. I don't care HOW successful they might have been in their criminality.

[CharlesWayneCT]

I worded that poorly. The senate bill presumes that if you've been here 5 years, you have "assimilated". What I'm saying is that assimilation is not the same as "how many years you have been".

That's what I meant by "having NOTHING to do with "years of illegality". I agree that they've been here illegally.