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Thomas Sowell strikes again! Ping will come later on today. I am once again typing this from my desktop, whereas the ping list is saved on my lappy.
1 posted on 05/23/2006 8:25:26 AM PDT by Gordongekko909
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Another insult to our intelligence is that amnesty is not amnesty if you call it something else. The fact that illegals will have to fulfill certain requirements to become American citizens is supposed to mean that this is not amnesty.

Bush and his country club republican buddies think we're stupid. And I guess he's right, because there are people still talking about how we have to keep republicans in office after the massive screwing we true conservatives have gotten over the years the republicans have been in charge of looting and squandering.

2 posted on 05/23/2006 8:31:47 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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Basically what the congresscritters are saying is,"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, Dorothy".They have their agenda and the public be damned.Its VOTES, VOTES, VOTES!


3 posted on 05/23/2006 8:32:39 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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Bordering? Very punny but there's nothing borderline about the fraud being perpetrated by this Senate.


4 posted on 05/23/2006 8:36:28 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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BUMP


5 posted on 05/23/2006 8:38:16 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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Sowell is usually so right on. Sad to see his reasoning fail here. If 24% of agriculture jobs are done by illegals, who presumably are paid lower wages than Americans, I would expect Sowell to make some argument about the folly of minimum wage and the *relative* unwillingness of Americans to do the work for the wages offered. That would have been consistent with most of his prior economic analysis.


6 posted on 05/23/2006 8:39:16 AM PDT by zook
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I find it odd that you have to hunt hard to find any everyday leftist liberal progressives in favor of this.

The pols have some agenda, other than pleasing their voters.


7 posted on 05/23/2006 8:39:20 AM PDT by razorback-bert (Kooks For Kinky)
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Can I ask a (probably naive) question here? Why can't we address this issue from the inside? In other words, make it impossible for the illegal aliens to receive services such as free medical care, free schooling, automatic citzenship for children born of illegal parents, etc.?

I can't help but think that if we worked on removing some of these incentives, the illegals who are here for the free goodies would go back to where they came from.

8 posted on 05/23/2006 8:39:29 AM PDT by RightField (The older you get ... the older "old" is !)
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The VA dept theft of Social Security numbers suggests that someone is thinking all the illegals coming are going to need some some SS#s as the Senate is set to legalize identity theft.


11 posted on 05/23/2006 8:42:16 AM PDT by ckilmer
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As usual, a REAL conservative like Sowell is right on the mark.

"How many times have we heard that illegal aliens are taking "jobs that Americans won't do"? Just what specifically are those jobs?"

Jobs slave labor employers want to fill at minimal wage, with no benefits and no chance of ever getting a promotion, in short, jobs that no body except someone coming from a barrio in South America would accept.
After all, they can't ship EVERYTHING to Red China and India.

Is THIS the standard we ant to set for American employees in the future?

I doubt it.


12 posted on 05/23/2006 8:43:06 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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BTTT


13 posted on 05/23/2006 8:43:33 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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Yet another insult to our intelligence...

A good summation of what we're seeing out of the Senate and this White House vis a vis immigration.

19 posted on 05/23/2006 9:00:21 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
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I don't want to hear about "comprehensive immigration reform". The whole notion is a sleight of hand, a way of dressing something up that you would never accept, and selling it to you with a pink bow on it.

Secure the border. Do that, and enforce current law, and the problem will resolve itself. Fail to secure the border, and nothing will work. Fail to secure the border, and the whole "comprehensive" immigration bill is exposed as a con game, and we are the patsy.

We don't need any new law to secure the border. They are selling us on the idea that to secure the border we need this huge new complex of laws, and thats a lie. It could be done today, if there is a will to do it, the volunteers already showed that it can be done.

If they can't, or won't, secure the border, why should we trust them with immigration reform? If they can't, or won't, secure the border, why should we trust them in office at all?


20 posted on 05/23/2006 9:00:30 AM PDT by marron
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Great article.He brings up some good points.TS:"Another insult to our intelligence...since we cannot find and deport 12 million people,the only choice left is to find some way to make them legal."That's simply a defeatist attitude propagated by the msm,dims,and pro-amnesty groups.It would take time,but if we secure the border(wall),and begin to deport illegals already here the problem will be solved over time.The big problem is getting everyone from the federal level on down on the same page.


23 posted on 05/23/2006 9:05:31 AM PDT by Thombo2
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32 posted on 05/23/2006 9:20:40 AM PDT by gubamyster
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But when will the glib phrase-mongers stop telling us that the illegals are simply taking "jobs that Americans won't do"?



They won't. The idea is to repeat a lie often enough so that it is eventually taken as fact.


34 posted on 05/23/2006 9:22:03 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (When Ted Kennedy and HRC support you Mr. President, it's time for some soul searching)
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Bush has also apparently learned that the word "amnesty" does not poll well. On Monday night, he angrily denounced the idea of amnesty just before proposing his own amnesty program. The difference between Bush's amnesty program and "amnesty" is: He'd give amnesty only to people who have been breaking our laws for many years — not just a few months. (It's the same program that allows Ted Kennedy to stay in the Senate.) -Ann Coulter..


36 posted on 05/23/2006 9:24:35 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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""Even in occupations where illegals are concentrated, such as agriculture, cleaning, construction, and food preparation, the great majority of the work is still being done by people who are not illegal aliens.""

Why are people who are so gung ho for punishing employers so utterly silent about needing to punish government officials who openly and deliberately violate federal laws? ""
Putting unarmed national guardsmen on the border is another cosmetic move, a placebo instead of real medicine. The excuse is that it is not possible to train more than 1,500 border patrol agents a year. Meanwhile, we have trained well over 200,000 Iraqi security forces while guerilla warfare raged around them.

You can put a million people on the border and it will mean nothing if those who are caught are simply turned loose and sent back to try again tomorrow -- or perhaps later the same day.""

Thank you................ Tom Sowell(FOR PRESIDENT)



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41 posted on 05/23/2006 9:33:42 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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I am going to take the time to send a copy of this article to my Senators and Congressman. They somehow have to understand that we understand what is happening here.


43 posted on 05/23/2006 9:34:39 AM PDT by maxter
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Keep up the fight Tom!


46 posted on 05/23/2006 9:39:00 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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There is probably no category of law-breakers -- from counterfeiters to burglars or from jay-walkers to murderers -- who can all be found and arrested. But no one suggests that we must therefore make what they have done legal.

Precisely.

47 posted on 05/23/2006 9:39:58 AM PDT by Gritty (Technically, 'amnesty' is only pardoning a crime rather than also giving a cash bonus-Mark Steyn)
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