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(Army Ranger Poseur) Jesse MacBeth’s Damned Spotty Background
Sweetness & Light ^ | May 23, 2006 | N/A

Posted on 05/23/2006 12:05:06 AM PDT by Sam Hill

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The left never seems to run out of frauds. Nor people who will believe them.
1 posted on 05/23/2006 12:05:11 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Howlin; Deb; kcvl; Mo1; Enchante; nopardons; veronica; KJC1; stocksthatgoup; mewzilla; backhoe; ...

Another "anti-war fake" vet ping!


2 posted on 05/23/2006 12:06:50 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Sam Hill

No way that pencil neck was a Ranger.


3 posted on 05/23/2006 12:11:07 AM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: Sam Hill

Thanks for the ping.

More here:

http://hotair.com/archives/top-picks/2006/05/22/anti-war-video-bogus/


4 posted on 05/23/2006 12:13:22 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: All

Hilariously CBS News, in their photo caption, called him Ron Hubbard. (As did I.)

But of course it is the infamous non-combat, probably never went to VN Sergant AL Hubbard:

Kerry's Mentor: Black Panther And Phony Vietnam Vet, Al Hubbard
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1080094/posts


5 posted on 05/23/2006 12:14:47 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Sam Hill
Goodness gracious....this is good stuff, you posted!

Lying lefty pigs!

6 posted on 05/23/2006 12:19:58 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Talk about stealing honor..He's a lying swine..but the lefties love him.


7 posted on 05/23/2006 12:31:12 AM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: nopardons

Thanks. It sure seems to be a pattern with them:

Cindy’s Marine Is A Liar | Sweetness & Light
http://www.sweetness-light.com/archive/marine-told-tales-for-fame/


8 posted on 05/23/2006 12:31:45 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Sam Hill

Since his arrest record doesn't seem to cover 1993, maybe he was in Iraq. Not sure whose army he was in though. ;-)


9 posted on 05/23/2006 12:32:26 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Sam Hill

I was preparing to post this article so instead I'll just add some other clues people have caught from his various interviews and appearances. Hard to get away with much of anything anymore, Darn that internet !


1. Claim: Attended Ranger School.

Truth: Would be awarded the Ranger tab, worn on the left shoulder above the 3/75 scroll.

2. Claim: Attended Special Forces Qualification Course.

Truth: Would be awarded the Special Forces tab, worn on the left shoulder above the 3/75 scroll. SFQC from start to end takes about 1.5 years to complete, without any breaks. In a 11-03-2003 interview with the Eastern Arizona Courier he claims to have been home 2.5 months, making it 08-20-2003. He claims to have spent 14 months in Iraq and Afghanistan, making it 06-20-2002 when he departed for overseas. Special Forces is a total of 18 months making it 01-20-2001. Infantry combat training (boot camp) is 13 weeks, Jump school is 3 weeks, and Ranger school is 8 weeks (total of 24 weeks) making it 07-20-2000. A total of 3 years and 4 months of training and combat. If he was 19 years old in the interview then he was 15 or 16 when he enlisted. Minimum age of enlistment is 17 with parental consent. He also claims to have joined when he was 17, so the training and combat timelines do not work out. And this is if the system worked perfectly and the day he finished one school he started another, which is impossible because these schools are not collocated.

3. Claim: Fought with 3/75 in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Truth: Would be wearing former wartime service 3/75 scroll on right shoulder.

4. Claim: Wearing Special Forces shoulder sleeve insignia on right shoulder, with Special Forces Qualification tab.

Truth: No claims of being assigned to any Special Forces Group. The Special Forces Qualification tab is not worn on the right shoulder as a part of the former wartime service insignia.

5. Claim: United States Army Soldier.

Truth: Rolls his uniform sleeves inside out not authorized in the Army.

6. Claim: Combat Infantryman Badge 2nd award.

Truth: CIBs are issued during qualifying eras. The two most recent eras are Persian Gulf War, 17 January 1991 to 11 April 1991 and Somalia, 5 June 1992 to 31 March 1994. He would have been 9 years old to qualify for a second award.

7. Claim: Combat Action Badge 2nd award.

Truth: IF he was an infantryman, he would not qualify for 1 CAB, he would have had to change his MOS prior to the incident awarding the CAB. There has not been a second qualifying era to award a second CAB, so it is impossible for him to have a second award.

8. Claim: Ranger.

Truth: His beret is the correct color, but he is wearing the flash for the 1st Special Forces Group (wrong) and no distinctive unit insignia (wrong), which is required.

9. Claim: Operation Iraqi Freedom/ Battle of Fallujah.

Truth: The Battle of Fallujah (Operation Phantom Fury) began on 11-08-2004. As we read about our intrepid “Soldier” was at home protesting coffee prices. Operation Vigilant Justice began on 04-05-2004 and did not include elements of 3/75.


And don't get me started on the size of his font and spacing.


10 posted on 05/23/2006 12:37:03 AM PDT by tlb
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To: piasa

He's supposed to have just returned from Iraq as of April 2004, according to the ACU article.

Which is interesting, since the first charge against him was made in March 2004.

He didn't seem to waste any time.


11 posted on 05/23/2006 12:38:54 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: tlb
Funny you should say that. I was just about to post this:

There are several obvious conflicts in this gentleman’s story:

The War the Media is Not Reporting — An Iraqi Veteran Speaks Out

Apr 26, 2006
By Justice

Jesse Macbeth, formerly a Special Forces Ranger in Iraq, is now active with Iraq Veterans Against the War in Tacoma, Washington. The Rangers are elite units sent door-to-door in Iraq to combat the insurgency. They were also sent into Fallujah to crush all opposition to the occupation of that city. Justice recently interviewed Jesse.

How did you end up in the military?
I grew up on the streets. I got into trouble for fighting. The same judge that I’d been dealing with my whole life told me that I wouldn’t have to do adult time if I signed up for the military immediately. Sometimes I kinda wish I went to jail instead.

How did you become a Special Forces Ranger?
Basic training was easy for me. Growing up on the streets, I was used to running from cops. I was used to not eating for days. I got picked to go to Ranger School.

What did your division do?
I was in the Third Ranger Battalion. Our job was to strike fear in the hearts of the Iraqi people.

We would go into people’s houses and plow down entire families. We would interrogate people. If we didn’t like the answers that they gave, then we would kill the youngest child. If they gave more answers that we didn’t like, then we’d move on to the rest of the family. They could’ve been innocent people.

We would leave the bodies in the streets and blame it on the Shi’ites or the Sunnis. [In Fallujah] we were ordered to go into mosques and slaughter people while they were praying. I won’t go into full detail because I’m still haunted by the memories.

What was the assault on Fallujah like?
Fallujah is where we slaughtered people in mosques. We provoked the people there. Some people escaped from the mosques and saw us. We would dig holes and leave mass graves of children, women, and old men. We were ordered to let people die on the street. We were told that the Geneva Convention means nothing to us in combat.

We were ordered to fire on peaceful protesters in Fallujah. Somebody threw a rock at us, and an officer said that he thought it was a grenade. Then we were ordered to fire. When it’s daylight in Iraq, it’s daylight! Nobody really thought it was a grenade.

What medals did you get in Iraq?
I got a lot. I got a purple heart. Half of them, I don’t remember. I got five or six medals just for landing. I got a bronze star.

What injuries did you get?
I got stabbed many times. I got shrapnel in my knee. I got shot in the back.

What do you think is the role of the U.S. in Iraq?
The military is terrorists there. Soldiers thought we were going to fight terrorism, but we became the terrorists. We were told we were going to liberate the country and find weapons of mass destruction. The real aim is to have the U.S. own the country. The U.S. wants oil.

How has the government treated you since you got back?
Like shit. I hate them. I’m not gonna be a terrorist or anything, but I hate them. They killed my battle brothers. They used me. They messed me up. They didn’t care about me. They turned me into a beast, a machine.

What Veteran’s benefits have you gotten?
I ain’t getting nothing. A card and that’s it.

Where do you work?
I’m an Iraq vet, and I work at Wendy’s.

How did you get involved in IVAW?
Veteran’s Affairs told me they had no money for me. I always knew the war was fucked up, but that motivated me to say something about it. The government throws us away. They did the same thing after Vietnam.

Why do you think people should get involved in the antiwar movement?
Because it’s gotta stop. Innocent people are getting killed. Bush says we have to stay the course and that it’s hard work. Bush doesn’t know what work is.

Anything else you want to say?
Yeah. The news here is controlled. The military lets information out that serves their purposes. We slaughtered a sovereign nation. Reporters got killed.

When I was growing up, everyone thought I’d be a criminal, but they were wrong. I’m gonna be one of the leaders of the revolution.

http://www.socialistalternative.org/news/article13.php?id=261

Not the least of which is that the “Battles For Fallujah” occurred after was back and protesting at the local coffee shop:

Fallujah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In a highly publicized attack on March 31, 2004, four private military contractors from the U.S. company Blackwater USA were dragged from their vehicle and killed. Their bodies were then mutilated and burned. A crowd of militants and townsfolk, estimated to number over a thousand, beat and dragged the burnt corpses behind automobiles, then hanged the dismembered remains from the girders of one of Fallujah’s two bridges over the Euphrates River (known previously as “the old bridge”, but now as “the Blackwater bridge” and to the Marines as “the Brooklyn Bridge”). These acts were videotaped by journalists and broadcast worldwide. This led to an abortive US operation to recapture control of the city in Operation Vigilant Resolve, a siege of the city called Operation Plymouth Rock and a successful recapture of the city, resulting in the death of over 1,000 insurgent fighters and the loss of 92 American soldiers KIA and over 500 wounded, in November 2004 called Operation Phantom Fury.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallujah


12 posted on 05/23/2006 12:55:38 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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The Typical U. S. Army Ranger

Age: 24

Height: 69 inches

Weight: 174 pounds

Time in service: 4.5 years

Time on station: 2 years

Military training: Basic Combat Training

Advanced Individual Training

Airborne School (3 weeks)

Ranger Indoctrination Program (1 month)

Pre-Ranger Course (3 weeks)

Ranger School (2 months)

Ranger First Responder Medical Training (1 week)

Primary Leadership Development Course (4 weeks)

Experience:OEF/OIF deployments x 1-4

Joint Readiness Training Center rotation

Joint Readiness Exercise

Live fire exercises: 25

Rank: About half are specialists (pay grade E-4)

Army Physical Fitness Test Score: 275 out of 300

Awards: Expert Infantryman Badge

Combat Infantryman Badge

Army Commendation Medal

Army Achievement Medal

GWOT Expeditionary and Service medals

Ranger Tab

Parachutist Badge

Other Statistics: Less than half are married

Number of children is 1.75

Most have some college

About half are Ranger qualified (earned Ranger Tab) Rangers Lead the Way!

Source: U.S. ARMY SPECIAL OPERATIONS COMMAND PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICE

The typical moonbat version of a U.S. Army Ranger

Wardrobe Provided By: His local GAP and Army Navy Surplus stores.

Special Thanks to George Clooney, for all of his tremendous "How to play a Ranger" expertise.

Stay pretty George!


13 posted on 05/23/2006 12:56:52 AM PDT by TeddyCon
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LOL! Look at this guy! If he was a Ranger, then I'm George Patton!


14 posted on 05/23/2006 12:57:59 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: Mr. Blond

That's exactly what I thought when I saw the picture.


15 posted on 05/23/2006 1:09:36 AM PDT by Ruth A. (we might as well fight in the first ditch as the last)
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To: tlb
They need to arrest him for impersonating a soldier.

Some other things I saw in 1 minute of watching his video and I had to stop watching before I destroyed my monitor.

1)Whats with the back T-shirt under his BDU's.
2)His beret is over the wrong eye. He also looks like a pizza man.
3)BDU top is wrong Decade!
RLTW
16 posted on 05/23/2006 1:15:08 AM PDT by Marius3188 (Happy Resurrection Weekend)
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To: Mr. Blond

You beat me to it, my exact thought as soon as I saw the guy. No way.


17 posted on 05/23/2006 1:25:33 AM PDT by Roy Tucker
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As others have noted, the emblem on MacBeth's beret (featured in the video) is wrong, and the beret is worn on the wrong side:
  

The photo on the right is of an actual member of the 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment.

Ranger 3rd Bn - Color

18 posted on 05/23/2006 1:54:04 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Sam Hill; All
This just in from the blogosphere:

Anti-War "Ranger" Editing History

Jessie Macbeth (the “former Army Ranger” who alleged horrific crimes by the US military) has removed the bogus awards from his Military.com profile.

A little too late, because Allahpundit got screenshots.

UPDATE at 5/22/06 10:02:14 pm:

And now the videos of Jessie Macbeth that were posted at YouTube have been removedlink: 230 comments  "This kind of bogus shit of posting fake kudos while you stab your fellow troops in the back is a total insult to the men and women who earn the real thing with blood, sweat, toil, and tears (to steal a phrase), yet who almost NEVER blow their own horns and who just say "hey, man, I was just doing my job;" whose main focus is staying with their squads to see that they all come back alive."

Facts are easy to check now, and memories are longer.

This has been fun to watch today. It's amazing what the informed eye can see in his glamor shot and TOTALLY and COMPLETELY discredit him without even getting to his alleged story. It's obvious the blogosphere has prevailed, the film producers are backing off, Jesse is changing his Mil.com profile, and the progressives are still crying fake but accurate.

19 posted on 05/23/2006 1:55:56 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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To: backhoe

Great job all, ferreting out another fake.


20 posted on 05/23/2006 2:05:30 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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