[nopardons]

Bill Clinton...is that you?

I have NOT said, nor shall I ever say, that any thread about the president makes me "weepy" or "choked up". You are USING me to flame away at what others have posted. You have, repeatedly, now, swept me into some "group", which you rail against. That is sheer perfidy!

Your supposed "mildness", is, in reality, outright baiting and incitements to a flame war.

Anything off topic, which you have posted continuously, is HIJACKING A THREAD. Case closed and you've lost.

There were many people, throughout Reagan's two terms as president, from the RIGHT, who said that Reagan was NOT a Conservative at all. They groused, they moaned and groaned, they yelled and clamored after his hide. Now, NOW, these same people and those who were children, when Reagan was president, are doing a repeat performance on President Bush.

Nobody, whom you people would call a conservative, now, can win the presidency, in '08; let alone could have done so in 2000 and '04.

If you'd like to debate the last line, then do so; that would be a legitimate debate. The rest of your dubious, often spurious and libelous posts, are nothing but chidish ness and noise.

[CWOJackson]

It's amazing how President Reagan becomes more and more conservative every day...to the point where he has become a mystical icon for the ultra-right.

I wonder what he would think about becoming an extreme icon?

[wizardoz]

I'm using YOU to flame? I was addressing someone else and you lept in and got just what people get for trying to be a thread cop. And now you're hysterical. Get some sleep.

[reformedliberal]

Nobody, whom you people would call a conservative, now, can win the presidency, in '08; let alone could have done so in 2000 and '04.

Great point. Not only are you correct, the constant nasty comments have convinced me that even IF some conservative would win the Presidency any time in the future, they would be a disaster at the job.

The POTUS is President of all the people and must put the nation ahead of any ideology. Whomever is in that office must be totally aware of how American actions resonate in a world full of envious and perfidious allies and many enemies. We are not a totalitarian dictatorship. Our Constitution and the rules of the Congress give great powers to the minority and demand a supermajority in order to overcome minority objections and obstruction. The answer to many of our problems with the Senate is to elect more Republicans to reinforce our caucus.

I feel betrayed every time I read some violent post or some screed impugning the character of President Bush. I don't always agree with him, but I admire him and, above all, I respect the office. It is the Senators who have been seduced by money from the corporations which need slave labor who have truly sold us out.

Thank you, Howlin! Your pings are not to be missed.