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To: Alter Kaker
Was it common for grown men to sleep with one another in France in the 13th century? I honestly don't know.

You will have to read more about the culture back then. Then you won't be hoodwinked by the gay history-revisionist propoganda. Even as late as Melville's "Moby Dick" Ishmael and Queequeg share a bed and no one to my knowledge has accused them of homosexuality.

And you know that because...?

Again, if you know your history, you will know that Henry II lived for the expansion of his kingdom. If there was any threat that his son would adopt a homosexual lifestyle and thereby imperil the dynasty he would certainly not have "marvelled".

The only way to be sure of this stuff is to become more familiar with history. One of the socialists' favorite tactics is to disrupt it. The more you know, the more you can be free from their tactics.

200 posted on 05/22/2006 2:23:50 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Siena Dreaming
You will have to read more about the culture back then.

That's not answering my question. You made an affirmative statement -- I tend to be skeptical of affirmative statements in general unless backed by evidence.

Then you won't be hoodwinked by the gay history-revisionist propoganda.

You misunderstand my point. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying I don't know and you haven't attempted to prove why you're right. I'm not going to believe what you say, just because, unless you can provide a compelling argument.

Even as late as Melville's "Moby Dick" Ishmael and Queequeg share a bed and no one to my knowledge has accused them of homosexuality.

Utterly irrelevant. You made a statement about what royal culture was like in France in the 13th century. American whaling culture in the 19th century is irrelevant to that. There may be similarities, or there may not be, but you have to inform the latter before you go off spouting authoritatively on the 13th century.

205 posted on 05/22/2006 2:38:31 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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